Quote:If you want to prevent abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Men seem unable (or unwilling) to admit that they cause 100% of them.

Quote:As a society, we really don’t mind if women suffer, physically or mentally, as long as it makes things easier for men.

Quote:we’ve trained men from birth to disassociate sex and pregnancy.

Quote:A woman’s orgasm has literally nothing to do with pregnancy or fertility — her clitoris exists simply for pleasure, not for creating new humans.

Quote:Vasectomies are very safe, highly reversible, and about as invasive as a woman getting an IUD implanted

(Jan 20 2025, 1:03 PM)komorebi Men Cause 100% of Unwanted Pregnancies (archive link), Gabrielle Blair on Medium, Sep 24, 2018 (original link)
Our conversation about abortion places the burden of responsibility on women. I argue men are the root cause.

Quote:If you want to prevent abortion, you need to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Men seem unable (or unwilling) to admit that they cause 100% of them.

Quote:As a society, we really don’t mind if women suffer, physically or mentally, as long as it makes things easier for men.

I've always liked this article. (It surprises me a bit that it was written by a Mormon woman, as I thought that Mormons were generally anti-abortion.)

(Feb 5 2025, 9:13 PM)ShameMustChangeSides I've noticed something with Mormon women though. They look at the world around them (school, sports, friend groups) and then go back and experience the much more heavily patriarchal structure of church, and the older they get the more stark this contrast seems. A woman usually responds in two ways: patriarchy is divinely-instituted so she must cling to it harder, or it is flawed and it feels unfair so she questions it. Sometimes this can result in some good (though often very slow over the course of years) analysis. I think that's likely what happened for Blair. Mormon women are told to be chaste and not tempt men, but be sexy so you can get a good husband and keep him, and men can't control themselves so whatever happens is on the woman, but don't forget that everyone has "agency" so you make your choices freely and so does he but not really.

(Feb 7 2025, 3:23 PM)Clover My partner is ex-Mormon, and I've visited his family in Utah (Mormon land), and I can confirm there is this sickening and strange expectation that Mormon women be absolutely beautiful. I saw a billboards all over the place for mommy makeovers, tummy tucks, facial plastic surgery, making your teeth look perfectly white and straight, etc. 

I remember reading an article or a post or something that talked about how there are way more Mormon women than there are men, and I think the issue is that in Mormonism, to get to the "highest tier" of Mormon heaven (that's a whole 'nother topic lmao), you need to be married and "sealed" at a Mormon temple (and have children of course). So, all these Mormon women who are brainwashed into this cult are worried about the scarcity of Mormon men because I guess they won't be able to get to ultra high level heaven (?!), thus causing some sort of race to the bottom of trying to be "the most beautiful" Mormon woman in order to be able to get a Mormon husband. It's all gross and sad.

ShameMustChangeSides Yep, you are 100% correct. The only way for women to access God in Mormonism is through a male intermediary, through a spouse or local clergy leader, which is just some other Mormon dude from your community. Might be your dentist or local mechanic. Can't go to the highest heaven without a Mormon marriage to a "righteous man," either, like you said. And ask me how righteous any of them really are when, at best, they're benevolent sexists and at worst, see women as sex objects and servants. They're so fixated on not drinking coffee and not saying "oh my God" to actually be good people.

(Feb 7 2025, 9:42 PM)periwinkle

ShameMustChangeSides Yep, you are 100% correct. The only way for women to access God in Mormonism is through a male intermediary, through a spouse or local clergy leader, which is just some other Mormon dude from your community. Might be your dentist or local mechanic. Can't go to the highest heaven without a Mormon marriage to a "righteous man," either, like you said. And ask me how righteous any of them really are when, at best, they're benevolent sexists and at worst, see women as sex objects and servants. They're so fixated on not drinking coffee and not saying "oh my God" to actually be good people.

Wow, I hate this so much. Male religions are so deeply fucked up.

(Feb 11 2025, 3:26 PM)YesYourNigel I feel like sometimes traditional religious women will have surprisingly feminist takes, but usually it's superficial and motivated by Madonna-wh*re dichotomies where violence and rape are bad not for beong bad, but when they're targeted at "good" women.

Also sometimes they try to apply at least part of religious purity and morality culture to men in order to realise the fairy tale of a loyal, morally upstanding religious husband, not realising that fellow religious men don't give a shit about playing along with that. Men are in it to control and exploit women, not to limit their own rise to power and sense of supremacism.

I had no idea about this Mormonism thing, and it absolutely sounds fucked up. I wonder why women are more attracted to it. Is it just the usual patriarchal brainwashing making them more vulnerable to religious authority? Or is it uniquely more attractive to them than other sects? Alternatively, is it unrelated to female numbership and instead due to being uniquely offputting to men compared to other sects? Like if female membership remains static but male drops, it would still look like women are more attracted to it, when it's really just that men are less attracted to it, woth no effect on female membership.