(Nov 9 2025, 10:58 PM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 9 2025, 5:18 PM)Knotgonnalie I should have clarified. I mean of course a woman who is heterosexual is going to be focused on either gay male or male-female romance since she is exclusively MALE attracted. So she is androcentric, hence the appeal of erotica and "shipping."

Imagine if the vast majority of porn that both men and women created treated the penis as entirely irrelevant to sex, and if the particularly enlightened women knew to add in a bit of petting to that area before moving onto cunnilingus. All of the patriarchal biases I mentioned apply as much to straight men as they do to straight women, which doesn't make sense - shouldn't straight women like different things from straight men? Why do straight women like sexualised women in lingerie and the focus on how attractive or beautiful female bodies are? Why do straight women like not having any attention paid to their centre of sexual pleasure? Why are straight women always so insistent that orgasms and their clits are unimportant? Because women do not profit off of the male self-centred sexual entitlement that is taken for granted in straight relationships.

(Nov 10 2025, 9:46 AM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 9 2025, 10:58 PM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 9 2025, 5:18 PM)Knotgonnalie I should have clarified. I mean of course a woman who is heterosexual is going to be focused on either gay male or male-female romance since she is exclusively MALE attracted. So she is androcentric, hence the appeal of erotica and "shipping."

Imagine if the vast majority of porn that both men and women created treated the penis as entirely irrelevant to sex, and if the particularly enlightened women knew to add in a bit of petting to that area before moving onto cunnilingus. All of the patriarchal biases I mentioned apply as much to straight men as they do to straight women, which doesn't make sense - shouldn't straight women like different things from straight men? Why do straight women like sexualised women in lingerie and the focus on how attractive or beautiful female bodies are? Why do straight women like not having any attention paid to their centre of sexual pleasure? Why are straight women always so insistent that orgasms and their clits are unimportant? Because women do not profit off of the male self-centred sexual entitlement that is taken for granted in straight relationships.

Who says straight women don't like different things than straight men?? Straight men don't read gay male romance/erotica. They don't read fan fiction/shipping.

(Nov 10 2025, 11:21 AM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 10 2025, 9:46 AM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 9 2025, 10:58 PM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 9 2025, 5:18 PM)Knotgonnalie I should have clarified. I mean of course a woman who is heterosexual is going to be focused on either gay male or male-female romance since she is exclusively MALE attracted. So she is androcentric, hence the appeal of erotica and "shipping."

Imagine if the vast majority of porn that both men and women created treated the penis as entirely irrelevant to sex, and if the particularly enlightened women knew to add in a bit of petting to that area before moving onto cunnilingus. All of the patriarchal biases I mentioned apply as much to straight men as they do to straight women, which doesn't make sense - shouldn't straight women like different things from straight men? Why do straight women like sexualised women in lingerie and the focus on how attractive or beautiful female bodies are? Why do straight women like not having any attention paid to their centre of sexual pleasure? Why are straight women always so insistent that orgasms and their clits are unimportant? Because women do not profit off of the male self-centred sexual entitlement that is taken for granted in straight relationships.

Who says straight women don't like different things than straight men?? Straight men don't read gay male romance/erotica. They don't read fan fiction/shipping.

Which are all androcentric and phallocentric. Straight men revolve their sexuality around their pleasure, their stimulation, their dicks, their fetishes. Straight women revolve their sexuality around male pleasure, male stimulation, men's dicks, men's fetishes. Writing it off as "lulz I guess women just happen to like different things" doesn't cut it when these "different" things are just another manifestation of patriarchal double standards where women are either erased or celebrated as sexually liberated so long as they've stockholm-syndromed themselves into getting off to the unequal sexual norms in place.

(Nov 10 2025, 12:37 PM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 10 2025, 11:21 AM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 10 2025, 9:46 AM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 9 2025, 10:58 PM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 9 2025, 5:18 PM)Knotgonnalie I should have clarified. I mean of course a woman who is heterosexual is going to be focused on either gay male or male-female romance since she is exclusively MALE attracted. So she is androcentric, hence the appeal of erotica and "shipping."

Imagine if the vast majority of porn that both men and women created treated the penis as entirely irrelevant to sex, and if the particularly enlightened women knew to add in a bit of petting to that area before moving onto cunnilingus. All of the patriarchal biases I mentioned apply as much to straight men as they do to straight women, which doesn't make sense - shouldn't straight women like different things from straight men? Why do straight women like sexualised women in lingerie and the focus on how attractive or beautiful female bodies are? Why do straight women like not having any attention paid to their centre of sexual pleasure? Why are straight women always so insistent that orgasms and their clits are unimportant? Because women do not profit off of the male self-centred sexual entitlement that is taken for granted in straight relationships.

Who says straight women don't like different things than straight men?? Straight men don't read gay male romance/erotica. They don't read fan fiction/shipping.

Which are all androcentric and phallocentric. Straight men revolve their sexuality around their pleasure, their stimulation, their dicks, their fetishes. Straight women revolve their sexuality around male pleasure, male stimulation, men's dicks, men's fetishes. Writing it off as "lulz I guess women just happen to like different things" doesn't cut it when these "different" things are just another manifestation of patriarchal double standards where women are either erased or celebrated as sexually liberated so long as they've stockholm-syndromed themselves into getting off to the unequal sexual norms in place.

Men often watch lesbian or female solo porn (and sometimes read) because they are not into male bodies and don't want to see it at all. The same carries over to heterosexual women. Not being attracted to women is not Stockholm syndrome.

Quote:Of course women shouldn't be reading and/or creating toxic, violent, misogynistic relationships. But that is not up for you to even debate.

Quote:You admit you aren't heterosexual. If you are a lesbian, how would you feel if a heterosexual women was talking about you/lesbians with such authority??

(Nov 15 2025, 12:35 PM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 10 2025, 12:37 PM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 10 2025, 11:21 AM)YesYourNigel

(Nov 10 2025, 9:46 AM)Knotgonnalie

(Nov 9 2025, 10:58 PM)YesYourNigel Imagine if the vast majority of porn that both men and women created treated the penis as entirely irrelevant to sex, and if the particularly enlightened women knew to add in a bit of petting to that area before moving onto cunnilingus. All of the patriarchal biases I mentioned apply as much to straight men as they do to straight women, which doesn't make sense - shouldn't straight women like different things from straight men? Why do straight women like sexualised women in lingerie and the focus on how attractive or beautiful female bodies are? Why do straight women like not having any attention paid to their centre of sexual pleasure? Why are straight women always so insistent that orgasms and their clits are unimportant? Because women do not profit off of the male self-centred sexual entitlement that is taken for granted in straight relationships.

Who says straight women don't like different things than straight men?? Straight men don't read gay male romance/erotica. They don't read fan fiction/shipping.

Which are all androcentric and phallocentric. Straight men revolve their sexuality around their pleasure, their stimulation, their dicks, their fetishes. Straight women revolve their sexuality around male pleasure, male stimulation, men's dicks, men's fetishes. Writing it off as "lulz I guess women just happen to like different things" doesn't cut it when these "different" things are just another manifestation of patriarchal double standards where women are either erased or celebrated as sexually liberated so long as they've stockholm-syndromed themselves into getting off to the unequal sexual norms in place.

Men often watch lesbian or female solo porn (and sometimes read) because they are not into male bodies and don't want to see it at all. The same carries over to heterosexual women. Not being attracted to women is not Stockholm syndrome.

And again, all of it is androcentric and phallocentric as outlined previously. If you're going to respond, at least have the barest minimum of decency to read the very comment you are replying to.

It's baffling that you say men don't want to see male bodies when sexualised female bodies are impossible to avoid in content aimed at straight women. Even attractive men are completely optional and romance stories are chock full of uggos or straight up monstrous characters getting together with beautiful women. Imagine straight men getting off to porn and romance where the man was sexy and the woman ugly, and the camera spent 90% of the time ogling the man's body and beauty and focusing on how sexy, prettied up and vulnerable he is. Oh and also if sex spent 1% of the time on stimulating his penis to match the attention that the clit gets.

Quote:Of course women shouldn't be reading and/or creating toxic, violent, misogynistic relationships. But that is not up for you to even debate.

Uh, yes it fucking is. As a feminist, it is up to me to debate misogynistic societal norms. I don't give a flying fuck if someone's Nigel is jerking his dick to this misogyny, or if the misogyny is a part of someone's speshul unique culture, or if someone is very emotionally invested in it for whatever reason.

Quote:You admit you aren't heterosexual. If you are a lesbian, how would you feel if a heterosexual women was talking about you/lesbians with such authority??

Straight women do not get to shut lesbians up with cries of persecution when their patriarchal relationships get criticised. And nowhere did I say I'm not heterosexual or of any sexual orientation. false and misogynistic things do not suddenly become feminist and enlightened just because you identify a certain way. If that's what you believe, maybe trans activists with their selfID ideas would suit you better.

And I also have misgivings with the phallocentrism and androcentrism of lesbian/bi communities that you can see here (which you won't, because you don't care to ever read short comments, let along essays).