(Aug 19 2025, 9:17 PM)Wrongtoy I’m sorry, I’m very confused by how the tsliban is actually allowing females to participate online given their restrictions on real life participation. And English I would think would not be allowed at all.

In fact English proficiency is saving no one in Gaza. You think it will with the tsliban?

(Yesterday, 9:03 AM)ExitStageLeft

(Aug 19 2025, 9:17 PM)Wrongtoy I’m sorry, I’m very confused by how the tsliban is actually allowing females to participate online given their restrictions on real life participation. And English I would think would not be allowed at all.

In fact English proficiency is saving no one in Gaza. You think it will with the tsliban?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this comment seems unnecessarily combative. These programs seek to help girls and women develop skills that they can use to continue their education, start careers etc, most likely outside of Afghanistan. It is an immense undertaking for the students, as they are laying the groundwork to support themselves outside of their home country and away from family. That's the goal. 

The situation is Gaza is quite different and the challenges faced by the girls and women there are different.

Being combative wasn’t my intent. But seriously the taliban is inflicting restrictions on women’s  speech and children’s learning in their native language of Pashtun and you think they’re going to be a tiny bit ok with anyone especially women speaking English?

(Yesterday, 11:43 PM)Wrongtoy

(Yesterday, 9:03 AM)ExitStageLeft

(Aug 19 2025, 9:17 PM)Wrongtoy I’m sorry, I’m very confused by how the tsliban is actually allowing females to participate online given their restrictions on real life participation. And English I would think would not be allowed at all.

In fact English proficiency is saving no one in Gaza. You think it will with the tsliban?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this comment seems unnecessarily combative. These programs seek to help girls and women develop skills that they can use to continue their education, start careers etc, most likely outside of Afghanistan. It is an immense undertaking for the students, as they are laying the groundwork to support themselves outside of their home country and away from family. That's the goal. 

The situation is Gaza is quite different and the challenges faced by the girls and women there are different.

Being combative wasn’t my intent. But seriously the taliban is inflicting restrictions on women’s  speech and children’s learning in their native language of Pashtun and you think they’re going to be a tiny bit ok with anyone especially women speaking English?

(Aug 19 2025, 9:17 PM)Wrongtoy I’m sorry, I’m very confused by how the tsliban is actually allowing females to participate online given their restrictions on real life participation. And English I would think would not be allowed at all.

A Mentor Interview with Victory Afghanistan, Michelle Skowbo Question: There’s been discussion in the media about the risks female students take to attend secondary school. Can you speak to the safety and legal concerns around these students, their families, and/or instructors?

Answer: All girls and women have been banned above sixth grade from going to school, university, or work. Now, the reason we started Victory Afghanistan was to make online education accessible to them, to youth in Afghanistan, focusing on girls and women. However, the political system in Afghanistan has not made any public announcements on online education yet.

One of the reasons they have limited women from going to school is because they believe women should not be leaving their homes and that they belong in the house: That’s their ideology. And based on that, they have limited these women. However, because there have been no public announcements that you cannot take online classes, there hasn’t been a risk of, let’s say, the Internet being cut. On the family side, most of these students have great support from their parents and their siblings if they’re attending classes, and they’re very supportive of them.

Again, because the students have no jobs, they cannot buy a smartphone or pay for the Internet every month. It might not be the case for 100% of all the students, but for most of them, their family is supporting them.

So legally, there haven't been any challenges with these online classes. The Victory Afghanistan team has not received any threats for offering these classes to women in Afghanistan, but we never know if or when they’re going to announce that women are also banned from learning remotely from their homes.

(3 hours ago)Wrongtoy I did a thread relating to Afghan women in Vexxed recently. In “helping” these women, we need to examine whether it’s actually help.

English is the language of their most recent enemy. So any tolerance of learning it among uppity women would necessarily endanger them more than men.

As to “dreams” of escaping Afghanistan to the west, those that have haven’t all exactly been “free the burka.” Said women in Europe obediently wearing niquab suggest to male believers that anyone not in one is fair game.