Discussion between Quanell X and Fox News radio host Matt Patrick Patrick: So Quanell, I want to talk to you about this last week. This young, ten year old, very intelligent looking young lady. A Black young lady at a Pearland school who will not stand for the Pledge of Allegiance in her classroom. She doesn't want to stand up because apparently she believes that Black Americans need a lot more to be done in this country. She is not willing to support the Black Americans that have fought and died for this country. You know what I believe Quanell? And I know you supported her publicly. But you know what I think? I think at ten years old, she has no real understanding of what America is. So I wonder if her parents have sat her down, and explained what Americans have given their lives -- white, black, red -- it doesn't make any difference. They stood and they fought and they died for this country, and she doesn't want to do anything to honor them?

Quanell: She comes from a family of military service members. Her father is a retired military service member also who served this nation well with great dignity. She also has additional family members who was in the Armed Forces. Her mother's a very intelligent woman who has had long conversations, as well as her father, about her not standing for the flag. What white people need to understand--

Patrick: Just white people?

Quanell: Yes, please, let me explain. What white people need to understand is that that national anthem was written by Francis Scott Key, a slave owner--

Patrick: Oh, here we go.

Quanell: --who demonized and hated Black slaves and Black people. And that unwritten third, and unheard of, and unspoken third verse... go research the third verse, where he says "there's no refuge in this country for the hireling or the slave, both to be turmoiled to the grave--

Patrick: How's her parents doing? Are they successful?

Quanell: --this is a man that promised turmoil for Black people to the grave. Would you ask Jewish students to say a pledge to a German anthem that disrespects Jewish people?

Patrick: If they're living in Germany? Sure.

Quanell: No, you would not.

Patrick: Well sure.

Quanell: That disrespects Jewish people? No, you would not.

Patrick: You certainly can kneel down, in America, you have the right to do that. But what will happen to her? How her friends will respond? How the school will view her? How Americans will view her? Is very negative. This is not what you want for a ten year old child.

Quanell: And let me say that that young girl and others like that young girl: America looked at the same way at Rosa Parks when she refused to get up and give up her seat to a white man on the bus, but history vindicated her. History vindicated her. America demonized Harriet Tubman for freeing slaves from slavery, but history vindicated her. So I say to that young girl, you stand strong, stand up, and stand for what you believe in. And to all of those who are too coward to do it, don't get that young girls, when others like her support that young girl.

Patrick: What would you like her to say? To the men and women who have fought for this country like I ran into over the weekend. The black men and women who fought for this country, and some who gave their lives.

Quanell: And ask the black men and women who served America in its military, like in the Independence War, we helped America get it, and we were still slaves afterward. Ask those in Vietnam who gave their ??? Vietnam battle field, but then came back and was called "Niggas" in their own country. We have fought in America's wars and we have never been given the justice and due process of everybody else in this nation.

Patrick: Then why don't you move to a different country? Why are you staying here if you don't like it?

Quanell: Man, let me tell you why. Because the country belongs to Indians. You white folks stole it from them. Raped and robbed their people. This not your country. You all came over here and stole it and beat the hell out of them, so this not your country. You all need to go home. You all need to go back where you came from.

Patrick: If you don't like it, why don't you pack up and ago?

Quanell: Let the Indians decide who should pack up and go and I guarantee you: Black folks are staying and you all will be on the first damn boat leaving here. So don't try that, brother, you aren't [???] make America. This is not your country.

Patrick: What you should do is sit down with someone who has fought for this country Quanell, get their opinion too.

Quanell: Tons of Black people have, and what have we gotten from it?

Catsoverall Black dude patiently listened to all his BS then the second he started responding with facts, got shouted at.

Big-Egg-1749 It's a tactic I first saw on CNN a few years back. The conservative or Republican is given respect to make they're point. When it's your turn they'll start shouting so you can't make you're point or to where no one can hear your point. Watch any program that they are a guest of and it's how it plays out 99% of the time.

LordHammercyWeCooked This vicious dogfight format has been going on so long that I'm convinced the general public doesn't know what a real debate even looks like. Like, if people saw a classic debate with one podium, one microphone, each speaker taking turns, a moderator to cut the mic when they go too long, they'd consider that straight-up alien and weird. Even the presidential "debates" we've seen on tv for the past thirty years haven't been traditional debates. It's just hot mics and shouting matches while the moderator cleans his glasses and announces commercial breaks.

chris5701 it always comes down to them saying "If you don't like it leave my country" this shows their agenda clearly. They are happy to advocate change on voting laws, voting count methods, immigration, making tariffs. But the second someone else mentions changes for them they effectively say "get out".

I've seen people in Asmongold's chat and conservative subreddits that are advocating all nonwhites be removed. Charlie Kirk even said "we need to stop the color revolution".

The white racists have taken over the government and have no shame for what they say.

anitabelle They seem to not like the freedom of choice. They seem to not like most people around them. They really don’t like having to defend their racist views. Seems to me that they should be asking themselves why don’t they leave the country?

Sad-Implement-5091 Even if the government paid for it. Blacks have been in the US for a couple hundred years. This is their home. The logic doesn't apply. It's their home.

It's not if you don't like the country, why don't you leave. If you don't like the country then help fix it. Which is what they are doing. Standing up for what they believe in.

That white guy is an idiot

saintmortfan The white dude said literally nothing of value. Total KO

D3s0lat0r Yeah, he’s just flat out wrong. He sounds like a bigot. The men and women in the military fought and are fighting for the freedom of that little girl to be able to do that. I applaud her for having the courage to do that, most likely doing it alone. Keep fighting brave girl, and don’t give these idiots one ounce of your attention. Most people (of any race) are on your side!

Target2030 And the people in the military were often treated differently after their return based on their color. Look at VA housing loans after WW2. Hardly any black people were able to use them. Same with the GI Bill. They fought for the country and came back to separate water fountains and sitting at the back of the bus.

lost_sunrise Lol what of value do they have to say on the subject? What they are being taught is that their ancestors did a little bad, but now its 400 years later. They don't see that bad.

They don't see their brethens chasing after a black man to hang him on a tree in 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015, 2020, and 2025. As long as these individuals don't see it, they feel there is no reason to get upset over it. Not happening to them.

You telling them what you are experiencing. The on-going policies set out to limit you. The predatory loans, the predatory recruiting practices that in-grained in their brothers to look at unique names who try to do something unique and different, as a lesser thing.

They been indoctrinated by the wealthy to not blame their problems on the current policies makers, the factory owners, the land owners, but the ones that found a way to come up outside of all that obstacles.

So if you looking for understanding upon people who are taught to be blind... life is going to end up a box of chocolates.

Educational-Gate-880 They never, it’s the same passionate argument they have as white people to deflect blame or accountability. Never taking into account about this countries land was never theirs it was already populated by others. And even when they made treaties and contracts to share they kept breaking them and killing the locals off the take more land until it was all consumed.

I have a friend that’s from an Oklahoma tribe and own a Casino. The local city and state tax them to help fund but primarily fund the local emergency response agencies, when those from the tribe need help they are usually the last to get it even they they are the ones who mainly fund it. Still lots of racism there.

My wife has native bloodline and was recently asked how she would feel if trump made her go back to her country by a white lady 🤣, wife told that her bloodline is from this country and where she planned on going since her bloodline wasn’t from here. Needless to say she didn’t like that very much and ended the conversation, mind you this was a casual conversation out of nowhere at a kids birthday party but I guess it was eating at the lady to ask her since she is Mexican. Now at school functions she avoids us and I’m glad she does! I don’t feel uncomfortable but I can tell the lady does. 🤣

Ryan_e3p This is why I don't bother debating people who are not capable of reason or arguing in good faith. It's a waste of time. Sure, it's satisfying to see people shut down, but that guy isn't going to lose his job. He isn't going to change his mind. He is going to dig deeper in, through out more unrelated thoughts and feelings, and continue hating on people who don't look like him who want to use the same 1st Amendment rights that give him the freedom to publicly rip on 10 year old girls.

Happy_Pause_9340 He just kept moving that goalpost when his shit got called out.

Dustytehcat “Why don’t they move to another country?” “White people stole this land, why don’t you move back to another country?” “Because I was born here!” What a stupid mother fucker.

ChicagoAuPair He’s not being honest and he knows it. He is there to spew talking points for the proudly ignorant white masses. He knows it’s dishonest. He doesn’t care about discussion. This is fascism 101.

ThaVibeYoureInto "How's her parents doing? Are they successful?" Wtf does that have to do with anything?

seethenoise they should be grateful trope.

NuYawker White saviors in their minds

WordleFanatic Exactly. It’s the attitude of “we didn’t lynch you, look how good we are for letting you have a life”. It’s insanity.

Rufus_TBarleysheath If they're successful, then she should be grateful.

If they're not successful, then they must all be lazy.

Zayd_ibn_Thabit The historically wronged refuse to honor the nation that oppressed them, and the historically unaffected criticize them for it.

Why should anyone feel obligated to honor a nation that harmed their ancestors and them presently?

There is no such obligation.

To believe otherwise may resemble Stockholm Syndrome.

feedthechonk I can't fucking stand "why don't you leave" defense.

1. The right wing NEVER apply irto themselves
   
2. They treat moving to another country as some sort of trivial process. Moving to a different place in the same city already sucks and costs money. Never mind leaving the rest of your family behind to go somewhere unknown, where you might not have a job, know the language or have any friends and family.
   Leaving is a last resort for most people.
   

I also got this anytime I criticized the US during middle and high school. "why don't you just move back to Canada then??? " I'm 12 and still live with my parents??? Yeah dude, let me just grab a knapsack and start walking north.