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As Women Take Over a Male-Dominated Field, the Pay Drops - Clover - Dec 29 2024
The New York Times, March 18 2016.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/upshot/as-women-take-over-a-male-dominated-field-the-pay-drops.html
Quote:Women’s median annual earnings stubbornly remain about 20 percent below men’s. Why is progress stalling?
It may come down to this troubling reality, new research suggests: Work done by women simply isn’t valued as highly.
That sounds like a truism, but the academic work behind it helps explain the pay gap’s persistence even as the factors long thought to cause it have disappeared. Women, for example, are now better educated than men, have nearly as much work experience and are equally likely to pursue many high-paying careers. No longer can the gap be dismissed with pat observations that women outnumber men in lower-paying jobs like teaching and social work.
A new study from researchers at Cornell University found that the difference between the occupations and industries in which men and women work has recently become the single largest cause of the gender pay gap, accounting for more than half of it. In fact, another study shows, when women enter fields in greater numbers, pay declines — for the very same jobs that more men were doing before.
Found from this Tumblr post, which discusses the findings more.
RE: As Women Take Over a Male-Dominated Field, the Pay Drops - Elsacat - Dec 29 2024
"Work done by women simply isn’t valued as highly" is something I became aware of a while back and it's infuriating. It doesn't matter what the work is. Likewise, some work, such as computer programming, wasn't highly valued or highly paid or seen as complicated/"smart"/"elite" work until mostly men were doing it.
RE: As Women Take Over a Male-Dominated Field, the Pay Drops - komorebi - Dec 29 2024
I think about this a lot and it's just infuriating. Here's the flip side of this which might not get talked about as often: men who do jobs that are "traditionally" female-dominated are paid more. I have sometimes seen MRAs saying that just like we have initiatives to support women in male-dominated professions like tech because they're a minority, we should have initiatives to support men in female-dominated professions like nursing because they're a minority. This conveniently ignores the fact that even though those men are a minority, they're paid more and promoted faster...so do they even really need support? 🤷
According to nursejournal.org (updated Oct 25, 2024):
- Despite the fact that women comprise more than 87% of the RN workforce, men reported making an average of $7,300 more than women as RNs
- Women with advanced degrees earn less than white males with only a bachelor's degree
- The pay disparity persists regardless of education level, age, certification, or experience
- The gap persists even in managerial/administrative roles
RE: As Women Take Over a Male-Dominated Field, the Pay Drops - Clover - Dec 29 2024
Women get glass ceilings, men get glass escalators.