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From flowers to stalking: how ‘nice guy’ narratives can lead to male entitlement and violence against wome - Elsacat - Apr 7 2025
https://theconversation.com/from-flowers-to-stalking-how-nice-guy-narratives-can-lead-to-male-entitlement-and-violence-against-women-252523
Quote:The term has been unofficially reappropriated by women to describe a certain kind of man – one who presents as being “nice”, but feels entitled to some kind of attention from a woman in exchange for this niceness.
RE: From flowers to stalking: how ‘nice guy’ narratives can lead to male entitlement a... - Clover - Apr 21 2025
Pedestalization of women. Lundy Bancroft talks about this in Why Does He Do That?. Like this article points out, people frequently think "abusive men" and think "violent" and don't realize that in the same way violent men don't view women as human, instead merely objects to abuse, the "nice guys" similarly view women as objects to pedestalize (and then abuse when they refuse to be a perfect porcelain doll for them). Both these types of misogynistic men don't view women as human, that is the core problem.