Male doctors disappearing from gynecology in Finland

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Male doctors disappearing from gynecology in Finland

Male doctors disappearing from gynecology in Finland

Magpie

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Yesterday, 2:30 PM

#1

Article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20117783

TLDR: far fewer men are becoming gynaecologists because female patients often refuse to be examined by male students, meaning they would be ill-prepared compared to their female peers after graduation. The article frames it as discrimination and unfair, but I think it's great news.

Magpie

Yesterday, 2:30 PM #1

Article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20117783

TLDR: far fewer men are becoming gynaecologists because female patients often refuse to be examined by male students, meaning they would be ill-prepared compared to their female peers after graduation. The article frames it as discrimination and unfair, but I think it's great news.

VerdantHorizon

58

Yesterday, 8:32 PM

#2

Quote:"Before the turn of the millennium, there probably were doctors who felt entitled to speak somewhat condescendingly or bluntly about women. Nowadays, we place a great deal of emphasis on how we engage with patients," Polo said.

Which is great, but they're asking female patients (outside of the emergency department, where there's less of a choice/survival is priority) to take a chance that a male gynecologist is going to be well-trained and not a condescending ass, or even a creep.

The times I've changed gynecologists I've felt a little bad about asking for only female doctors because I know men can be as capable and trustworthy as women at it, but I just don't want to. I struggle enough getting female doctors to listen to me, and I know I'm still full up enough with internalized patriarchial garbage that I wouldn't be able to tell a male gynecologist everything I can a female one. None of us should be shamed into it by framing it as anti-male discrimination.

I doubt these men would be entirely on board with a female doctor giving them a prostate exam or treating them for penis issues. It's just women that owe access of their bodies to men, again, in yet another context.

VerdantHorizon

Yesterday, 8:32 PM #2

Quote:"Before the turn of the millennium, there probably were doctors who felt entitled to speak somewhat condescendingly or bluntly about women. Nowadays, we place a great deal of emphasis on how we engage with patients," Polo said.

Which is great, but they're asking female patients (outside of the emergency department, where there's less of a choice/survival is priority) to take a chance that a male gynecologist is going to be well-trained and not a condescending ass, or even a creep.

The times I've changed gynecologists I've felt a little bad about asking for only female doctors because I know men can be as capable and trustworthy as women at it, but I just don't want to. I struggle enough getting female doctors to listen to me, and I know I'm still full up enough with internalized patriarchial garbage that I wouldn't be able to tell a male gynecologist everything I can a female one. None of us should be shamed into it by framing it as anti-male discrimination.

I doubt these men would be entirely on board with a female doctor giving them a prostate exam or treating them for penis issues. It's just women that owe access of their bodies to men, again, in yet another context.

Impress Polly

15

3 hours ago

#3

(Yesterday, 2:30 PM)Magpie Article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20117783

TLDR: far fewer men are becoming gynaecologists because female patients often refuse to be examined by male students, meaning they would be ill-prepared compared to their female peers after graduation. The article frames it as discrimination and unfair, but I think it's great news.

Discrimination and unfair are two very different things. It's excellent news!

Edited 3 hours ago by Impress Polly.

Impress Polly

3 hours ago #3

(Yesterday, 2:30 PM)Magpie Article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20117783

TLDR: far fewer men are becoming gynaecologists because female patients often refuse to be examined by male students, meaning they would be ill-prepared compared to their female peers after graduation. The article frames it as discrimination and unfair, but I think it's great news.

Discrimination and unfair are two very different things. It's excellent news!

Clover
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971

1 hour ago

#4

Yeah, I think this is great news. As if men can't pick any other doctor specialty, no, they have to pick the one that involves women's genitals. How tragic that women aren't interested in their services...

I think that male gynecologists were merely tolerated when women were prevented from being doctors themselves. Now that women have been catching up in opportunities, it makes sense that the people who have vaginas are the people who can, and are preferred to, specialize in health for vaginas.

It's also great news because it means women are more comfortable voicing their preference for a female doctor, and are apparently actually having their requests be respected enough to make changes in medical specialist enrollments.

Clover

Kozlik's regular account 🍀🐐

1 hour ago #4

Yeah, I think this is great news. As if men can't pick any other doctor specialty, no, they have to pick the one that involves women's genitals. How tragic that women aren't interested in their services...

I think that male gynecologists were merely tolerated when women were prevented from being doctors themselves. Now that women have been catching up in opportunities, it makes sense that the people who have vaginas are the people who can, and are preferred to, specialize in health for vaginas.

It's also great news because it means women are more comfortable voicing their preference for a female doctor, and are apparently actually having their requests be respected enough to make changes in medical specialist enrollments.

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