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What's on your feminist/women's studies reading list?

What's on your feminist/women's studies reading list?

 
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Feb 21 2025, 5:08 PM
#11
Books I have on my TBR pile:

Good and Mad / Rebecca Traister
Women of Ideas, and what men have done to them / Dale Spender
Backlash / Susan Faludi
Who Cooked the Last Supper? / Rosalind Miles
ain't i a woman / bell hooks

The Bluestockings: A History of the First Women's Movement / Susannah Gibson
Witchcraft: A History in Thirteen Trials / Marion Gibson
The Heroine with 1,001 Faces / Maria Tatar

I have read Invisible Women, and it's amazing work.

I also read The Feminine Mystique / Betty Friedan during the pandemic, when my mom and I had a mother-daughter book club for a while. 

While limited in scope, I found Friedan's analysis of the lives of middle class American housewives to be very enlightening re: my grandmothers. They were both very troubled women, and exactly of that generation of women that Friedan interviewed and described.
Edited Feb 21 2025, 5:13 PM by magdalyn.

perimenopausal and cranky as hell. also laughs at the drop of a hat. it's an exciting life, what can I say? 
magdalyn
Feb 21 2025, 5:08 PM #11

Books I have on my TBR pile:

Good and Mad / Rebecca Traister
Women of Ideas, and what men have done to them / Dale Spender
Backlash / Susan Faludi
Who Cooked the Last Supper? / Rosalind Miles
ain't i a woman / bell hooks

The Bluestockings: A History of the First Women's Movement / Susannah Gibson
Witchcraft: A History in Thirteen Trials / Marion Gibson
The Heroine with 1,001 Faces / Maria Tatar

I have read Invisible Women, and it's amazing work.

I also read The Feminine Mystique / Betty Friedan during the pandemic, when my mom and I had a mother-daughter book club for a while. 

While limited in scope, I found Friedan's analysis of the lives of middle class American housewives to be very enlightening re: my grandmothers. They were both very troubled women, and exactly of that generation of women that Friedan interviewed and described.


perimenopausal and cranky as hell. also laughs at the drop of a hat. it's an exciting life, what can I say? 

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Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM
#12
Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
Persephone
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Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM #12

Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?

68
Feb 22 2025, 5:01 AM
#13
'While limited in scope' - sorry, you've triggered a personal pet peeve for me.... Apparently when women write books they have to make sure they're writing about every demographic, particularly ones they don't belong to, or they're being too narrow at best and downright bigoted at worst. What, her analysis didn't address the experience of working-class black lesbian women? Well that was poor judgement on her part, she should have done better. Men, meanwhile, can write about whatever they want without being criticised for not writing about something/someone else.

Just reflecting on this more - I'm guessing it's because women are interchangeable, and all pretty much the same - so a woman writing about women would be expected to be writing about all women. Whereas each man is a separate unique special individual, so he can write about his own experience without the expectation that it should be generalisable to all men.
Edited Feb 22 2025, 6:01 AM by drdee.
drdee
Feb 22 2025, 5:01 AM #13

'While limited in scope' - sorry, you've triggered a personal pet peeve for me.... Apparently when women write books they have to make sure they're writing about every demographic, particularly ones they don't belong to, or they're being too narrow at best and downright bigoted at worst. What, her analysis didn't address the experience of working-class black lesbian women? Well that was poor judgement on her part, she should have done better. Men, meanwhile, can write about whatever they want without being criticised for not writing about something/someone else.

Just reflecting on this more - I'm guessing it's because women are interchangeable, and all pretty much the same - so a woman writing about women would be expected to be writing about all women. Whereas each man is a separate unique special individual, so he can write about his own experience without the expectation that it should be generalisable to all men.

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Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM
#14
(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)

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Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM #14

(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)


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komorebi
“I am not free while any woman is unfree, even when her shackles are very different from my own.” – Audre Lorde
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Feb 22 2025, 11:22 PM
#15
(Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM)Clover
(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)

I'd be willing to do one for Hags, since that's the book I'm in the middle of! I didn't really like the idea of making a new post for every chapter—felt a bit spammy and decentralized—but I also wasn't sure of a good way to organize it. What do you think, Clover?
komorebi
“I am not free while any woman is unfree, even when her shackles are very different from my own.” – Audre Lorde
Feb 22 2025, 11:22 PM #15

(Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM)Clover
(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)

I'd be willing to do one for Hags, since that's the book I'm in the middle of! I didn't really like the idea of making a new post for every chapter—felt a bit spammy and decentralized—but I also wasn't sure of a good way to organize it. What do you think, Clover?

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Feb 23 2025, 1:00 PM
#16
(Feb 22 2025, 11:22 PM)komorebi
(Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM)Clover
(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)

I'd be willing to do one for Hags, since that's the book I'm in the middle of! I didn't really like the idea of making a new post for every chapter—felt a bit spammy and decentralized—but I also wasn't sure of a good way to organize it. What do you think, Clover?

Yeah I wish we could do "sub threads" somehow that would be useful in this case. 😭 I personally did the online bookclubs on Ovarit with a chapter per post because I didn't care about being spammy. :coy: And then at the end I made a "main post" that includes links to all chapters.

Another user suggested subforums for each author in The Library. We could make one for Victoria Smith? Then the chapters could be contained in that forum.

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Feb 23 2025, 1:00 PM #16

(Feb 22 2025, 11:22 PM)komorebi
(Feb 22 2025, 12:50 PM)Clover
(Feb 22 2025, 4:18 AM)Persephone Seeing all these suggestions, I'll just butt in to ask - Clovenhooves book club when?
That would be really fun! We just gotta pick a book. :)

I'd be willing to do one for Hags, since that's the book I'm in the middle of! I didn't really like the idea of making a new post for every chapter—felt a bit spammy and decentralized—but I also wasn't sure of a good way to organize it. What do you think, Clover?

Yeah I wish we could do "sub threads" somehow that would be useful in this case. 😭 I personally did the online bookclubs on Ovarit with a chapter per post because I didn't care about being spammy. :coy: And then at the end I made a "main post" that includes links to all chapters.

Another user suggested subforums for each author in The Library. We could make one for Victoria Smith? Then the chapters could be contained in that forum.


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Feb 23 2025, 8:44 PM
#17
Woman and Nature - Susan Griffin (currently reading)
Feminist Revolution - the Redstockings Collective
Women, Race, and Class - Angela Y. Davis
Joen
Feb 23 2025, 8:44 PM #17

Woman and Nature - Susan Griffin (currently reading)
Feminist Revolution - the Redstockings Collective
Women, Race, and Class - Angela Y. Davis

May 15 2025, 11:47 PM
#18
As of now, this, based on a Facebook post I stumbled across. The words after this current paragraph are not mine they’re from the post, and I haven’t read the book but now I want to.

“I read Jancee Dunn's book the night after I'd hidden in the bathroom, silently sobbing into a towel so I wouldn't wake the baby—or my husband, who was sleeping through his third consecutive night shift that I was somehow pulling alone, despite us both working full-time. I wasn't crying from exhaustion. I was crying because I had just calculated how much child support he'd have to pay if I left him.
This isn't a book. It's a goddamn mirror reflecting the darkest thoughts of every mother who's ever fantasized about abandoning her family at 3AM, not because she doesn't love them, but because she's drowning and her partner is standing on the shore checking his phone.
The Maternal Rage You Feel Isn't Mental Illness—It's Mathematics Dunn ruthlessly quantifies what most parenting books politely ignore: the raw numerical inequality of modern parenthood. When she tracks hours spent on childcare (her: 35 weekly, him: 9) while both work full-time, it's not anecdotal—it's violence. The liberation comes in recognizing your homicidal thoughts aren't hormonal or "crazy"—they're the rational response to systemic theft of your time, sleep, and identity while someone who claims to love you watches from the sidelines.
The "Mental Load" Isn't Just Unfair—It's Killing You Cell by Cell What devastated me wasn't just Dunn's account of doing everything—it was her scientific exploration of what invisible labor does to a woman's brain and body. The constant vigilance of tracking every family need doesn't just make you tired—it restructures neural pathways, elevates cortisol, and accelerates aging. When her doctor finds her blood pressure dangerously high while her husband's remains perfect despite their supposedly "shared" stress, the physiological consequences of inequality are laid bare. You're not imagining it—this imbalance is literally shortening your life.

Your Husband Isn't Just Annoying—He's Been Systematically Trained to Disable You The book's most chilling insight comes when Dunn investigates how her competent, intelligent husband develops "strategic incompetence" around domestic tasks. Her research reveals it's not accidental—it's subconscious warfare honed through generations of male socialization. The weaponized helplessness ("Where does this go?"), the learned blindness to mess, the performance of bumbling assistance—these aren't personality quirks but sophisticated tactics to maintain privilege while appearing supportive. I'll never hear "just tell me what needs done" the same way again.

The Fights You're Having Aren't About Chores—They're About Human Worth Dunn's epiphany comes not in cataloging tasks but in recognizing the existential question beneath them: whose time and peace matter? When her husband unthinkingly preserves his exercise routine while she hasn't showered in days, when he sleeps through night wakings because he "has work" (as though she doesn't), when he requires praise for basic parenting—the underlying message is that his humanity outranks hers. This reframing transformed how I understood my own marriage's breaking points.

You're Not Control-Freaking—You're Preventing Catastrophe The section that left me breathless was Dunn's dissection of "maternal gatekeeping." Her therapist suggests she's "not letting go" of child-rearing tasks—until she documents the actual consequences of her husband's cavalier parenting: a toddler left in soiled clothes for hours, forgotten medications, a child nearly hit by a car while dad texts. The gut-punch: sometimes the "perfectionist mom" narrative masks legitimate terror of what happens when the backup system fails. I've never felt more vindicated about my inability to "just relax."

Romance After Children Requires Blood Sacrifice—Usually Yours Dunn's unflinching examination of post-baby intimacy problems goes beyond fatigue to something darker: the resentment poisoning attraction. Her account of faking interest while mentally calculating how many hours of sleep she's losing made me physically flinch with recognition. The breakthrough comes not through date nights or lingerie but through radical redistribution of invisible labor. Her documentation of how performing oral sex feels easier than asking for help with dishes exposes how parenthood turns sex into another form of female emotional labor.

The Solutions Aren't Cute—They're Nuclear What elevates this beyond primal-scream therapy is Dunn's scorched-earth approach to reconstruction. She brings in hostage negotiators. Corporate efficiency experts. Therapists who specialize in high-conflict divorce. The message is clear: half-measures will fail. Her implementation of NASA's black box system for critical communication during arguments saved not just her marriage but possibly her husband's life. This isn't about better chore charts—it's about dismantling and rebuilding the entire operational system of your relationship.

This book should be handed to every couple in the delivery room, not as celebration but as warning. Dunn doesn't offer gentle suggestions for reconnecting with your spouse—she offers battlefield triage for the psychological trauma that parenthood inflicts on females and marriages.”
cranberry
May 15 2025, 11:47 PM #18

As of now, this, based on a Facebook post I stumbled across. The words after this current paragraph are not mine they’re from the post, and I haven’t read the book but now I want to.

“I read Jancee Dunn's book the night after I'd hidden in the bathroom, silently sobbing into a towel so I wouldn't wake the baby—or my husband, who was sleeping through his third consecutive night shift that I was somehow pulling alone, despite us both working full-time. I wasn't crying from exhaustion. I was crying because I had just calculated how much child support he'd have to pay if I left him.
This isn't a book. It's a goddamn mirror reflecting the darkest thoughts of every mother who's ever fantasized about abandoning her family at 3AM, not because she doesn't love them, but because she's drowning and her partner is standing on the shore checking his phone.
The Maternal Rage You Feel Isn't Mental Illness—It's Mathematics Dunn ruthlessly quantifies what most parenting books politely ignore: the raw numerical inequality of modern parenthood. When she tracks hours spent on childcare (her: 35 weekly, him: 9) while both work full-time, it's not anecdotal—it's violence. The liberation comes in recognizing your homicidal thoughts aren't hormonal or "crazy"—they're the rational response to systemic theft of your time, sleep, and identity while someone who claims to love you watches from the sidelines.
The "Mental Load" Isn't Just Unfair—It's Killing You Cell by Cell What devastated me wasn't just Dunn's account of doing everything—it was her scientific exploration of what invisible labor does to a woman's brain and body. The constant vigilance of tracking every family need doesn't just make you tired—it restructures neural pathways, elevates cortisol, and accelerates aging. When her doctor finds her blood pressure dangerously high while her husband's remains perfect despite their supposedly "shared" stress, the physiological consequences of inequality are laid bare. You're not imagining it—this imbalance is literally shortening your life.

Your Husband Isn't Just Annoying—He's Been Systematically Trained to Disable You The book's most chilling insight comes when Dunn investigates how her competent, intelligent husband develops "strategic incompetence" around domestic tasks. Her research reveals it's not accidental—it's subconscious warfare honed through generations of male socialization. The weaponized helplessness ("Where does this go?"), the learned blindness to mess, the performance of bumbling assistance—these aren't personality quirks but sophisticated tactics to maintain privilege while appearing supportive. I'll never hear "just tell me what needs done" the same way again.

The Fights You're Having Aren't About Chores—They're About Human Worth Dunn's epiphany comes not in cataloging tasks but in recognizing the existential question beneath them: whose time and peace matter? When her husband unthinkingly preserves his exercise routine while she hasn't showered in days, when he sleeps through night wakings because he "has work" (as though she doesn't), when he requires praise for basic parenting—the underlying message is that his humanity outranks hers. This reframing transformed how I understood my own marriage's breaking points.

You're Not Control-Freaking—You're Preventing Catastrophe The section that left me breathless was Dunn's dissection of "maternal gatekeeping." Her therapist suggests she's "not letting go" of child-rearing tasks—until she documents the actual consequences of her husband's cavalier parenting: a toddler left in soiled clothes for hours, forgotten medications, a child nearly hit by a car while dad texts. The gut-punch: sometimes the "perfectionist mom" narrative masks legitimate terror of what happens when the backup system fails. I've never felt more vindicated about my inability to "just relax."

Romance After Children Requires Blood Sacrifice—Usually Yours Dunn's unflinching examination of post-baby intimacy problems goes beyond fatigue to something darker: the resentment poisoning attraction. Her account of faking interest while mentally calculating how many hours of sleep she's losing made me physically flinch with recognition. The breakthrough comes not through date nights or lingerie but through radical redistribution of invisible labor. Her documentation of how performing oral sex feels easier than asking for help with dishes exposes how parenthood turns sex into another form of female emotional labor.

The Solutions Aren't Cute—They're Nuclear What elevates this beyond primal-scream therapy is Dunn's scorched-earth approach to reconstruction. She brings in hostage negotiators. Corporate efficiency experts. Therapists who specialize in high-conflict divorce. The message is clear: half-measures will fail. Her implementation of NASA's black box system for critical communication during arguments saved not just her marriage but possibly her husband's life. This isn't about better chore charts—it's about dismantling and rebuilding the entire operational system of your relationship.

This book should be handed to every couple in the delivery room, not as celebration but as warning. Dunn doesn't offer gentle suggestions for reconnecting with your spouse—she offers battlefield triage for the psychological trauma that parenthood inflicts on females and marriages.”

May 16 2025, 7:15 AM
#19
Quote: This book should be handed to every couple in the delivery room, not as celebration but as warning.

Why wait until the delivery room? Women and men should read it before marriage or pregnancy. Or at least women should read it, because most men either won't bother or will feel victimized for their shitty behavior being called out.
Elsacat
May 16 2025, 7:15 AM #19

Quote: This book should be handed to every couple in the delivery room, not as celebration but as warning.

Why wait until the delivery room? Women and men should read it before marriage or pregnancy. Or at least women should read it, because most men either won't bother or will feel victimized for their shitty behavior being called out.

Clover
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872
May 16 2025, 10:09 AM
#20
Quote:The message is clear: half-measures will fail. Her implementation of NASA's black box system for critical communication during arguments saved not just her marriage but possibly her husband's life. This isn't about better chore charts—it's about dismantling and rebuilding the entire operational system of your relationship.

Woah, interested in this "NASA black box" system approach.
Clover
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May 16 2025, 10:09 AM #20

Quote:The message is clear: half-measures will fail. Her implementation of NASA's black box system for critical communication during arguments saved not just her marriage but possibly her husband's life. This isn't about better chore charts—it's about dismantling and rebuilding the entire operational system of your relationship.

Woah, interested in this "NASA black box" system approach.

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