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Article Rightwingers are trying to destroy women’s right to vote

Article Rightwingers are trying to destroy women’s right to vote

 
Dec 4 2025, 7:08 PM
#1
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/04/women-right-to-vote-disenfranchisement

https://archive.ph/KPyj8

Quote:But in recent decades, a more secular brand of anti-suffrage feeling has also challenged women’s voting rights, this one emerging from the strains of the right invested in biological determinism – a set of commitments ranging from evolutionary psychology to eugenics. This worldview tends to cast women as inferior not due to divine mandate, but due to nature, which, it is claimed, has made them either too stupid or too irresponsible for the vote.
Elsacat
Dec 4 2025, 7:08 PM #1

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/dec/04/women-right-to-vote-disenfranchisement

https://archive.ph/KPyj8

Quote:But in recent decades, a more secular brand of anti-suffrage feeling has also challenged women’s voting rights, this one emerging from the strains of the right invested in biological determinism – a set of commitments ranging from evolutionary psychology to eugenics. This worldview tends to cast women as inferior not due to divine mandate, but due to nature, which, it is claimed, has made them either too stupid or too irresponsible for the vote.

Clover
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Dec 4 2025, 10:29 PM
#2
I saw something about this on Reddit like, today or so. It was a screenshot of the rampant misogyny in some Instagram or TikTok content's comments. A lot of the comments were trying to make it seem like it's terrible that women can vote. Fucking psychotic and pathetic comments. It's pretty concerning for the future, given that the kind of shit they were espousing used to be like, 4chan level edgelord crap, now it's commonplace in social media your mom and grandma uses. Shit's insane.

Update: just stumbled across this r/NoFilterNews — 'More and more' MAGA Republicans openly calling to end women’s right to vote: https://reddit.com/r/NoFilterNews/comments/1pe3rzf/more_and_more_maga_republicans_openly_calling_to/

Update 2: Found shared on r/WomenInNews: https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1pe9rpl/rightwingers_are_trying_to_destroy_womens_right/
Edited Dec 5 2025, 1:24 AM by Clover.
Clover
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Dec 4 2025, 10:29 PM #2

I saw something about this on Reddit like, today or so. It was a screenshot of the rampant misogyny in some Instagram or TikTok content's comments. A lot of the comments were trying to make it seem like it's terrible that women can vote. Fucking psychotic and pathetic comments. It's pretty concerning for the future, given that the kind of shit they were espousing used to be like, 4chan level edgelord crap, now it's commonplace in social media your mom and grandma uses. Shit's insane.

Update: just stumbled across this r/NoFilterNews — 'More and more' MAGA Republicans openly calling to end women’s right to vote: https://reddit.com/r/NoFilterNews/comments/1pe3rzf/more_and_more_maga_republicans_openly_calling_to/

Update 2: Found shared on r/WomenInNews: https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1pe9rpl/rightwingers_are_trying_to_destroy_womens_right/

Dec 5 2025, 7:33 AM
#3
This is why it pisses me off to no end when women fall for the "misogyny is a Christian problem!" scam that men sell them and act like men are their allies by virtue of being atheists. A lot of these men are not religious because it doesn't appeal enough to their entitled hedonism and their masculine Facts&Logic narcissism. They just replace religion with evopsych.
YesYourNigel
Dec 5 2025, 7:33 AM #3

This is why it pisses me off to no end when women fall for the "misogyny is a Christian problem!" scam that men sell them and act like men are their allies by virtue of being atheists. A lot of these men are not religious because it doesn't appeal enough to their entitled hedonism and their masculine Facts&Logic narcissism. They just replace religion with evopsych.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
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Yesterday, 10:44 PM
#4
We've seen the Republican youth group chats. We know what's waiting in the wings once MAGA is gone: Groyperism. You know, Nick Fuentes politics. Open Hitler apologism. That's the next step. The conservative youth here in the United States are already there. Trump's preferred successor, his Vice President JD Vance, being my age, knows this. It's why, in contrast to older Republicans, he won't criticize the Groypers. And yes, Nick Fuentes politics means banning you from voting. Among many other things. He is the GOP's new thought leader.

Quote:Clover wrote:
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I saw something about this on Reddit like, today or so. It was a screenshot of the rampant misogyny in some Instagram or TikTok content's comments. A lot of the comments were trying to make it seem like it's terrible that women can vote. Fucking psychotic and pathetic comments. It's pretty concerning for the future, given that the kind of shit they were espousing used to be like, 4chan level edgelord crap, now it's commonplace in social media your mom and grandma uses. Shit's insane.

IMO, we need some kind of 4chan analogy of our own, free of misogyny, just to respond proportionally at this point.
Edited Yesterday, 11:15 PM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Yesterday, 10:44 PM #4

We've seen the Republican youth group chats. We know what's waiting in the wings once MAGA is gone: Groyperism. You know, Nick Fuentes politics. Open Hitler apologism. That's the next step. The conservative youth here in the United States are already there. Trump's preferred successor, his Vice President JD Vance, being my age, knows this. It's why, in contrast to older Republicans, he won't criticize the Groypers. And yes, Nick Fuentes politics means banning you from voting. Among many other things. He is the GOP's new thought leader.

Quote:Clover wrote:
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I saw something about this on Reddit like, today or so. It was a screenshot of the rampant misogyny in some Instagram or TikTok content's comments. A lot of the comments were trying to make it seem like it's terrible that women can vote. Fucking psychotic and pathetic comments. It's pretty concerning for the future, given that the kind of shit they were espousing used to be like, 4chan level edgelord crap, now it's commonplace in social media your mom and grandma uses. Shit's insane.

IMO, we need some kind of 4chan analogy of our own, free of misogyny, just to respond proportionally at this point.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
121
Yesterday, 11:16 PM
#5
(Dec 5 2025, 7:33 AM)YesYourNigel This is why it pisses me off to no end when women fall for the "misogyny is a Christian problem!" scam that men sell them and act like men are their allies by virtue of being atheists. A lot of these men are not religious because it doesn't appeal enough to their entitled hedonism and their masculine Facts&Logic narcissism. They just replace religion with evopsych.

I may be unique here in this position, but as far as I'm concerned, science is not discredited by how moids rape it any more than atheism is discredited because, like you say, men often just embrace it really just to excuse their lifestyle pattern of getting women drunk and then ditching them. (No God, no judgment. How women consequently feel doesn't seem to matter to them quite so much as the opinion of a male figment of our collective imagination.) Quite frankly, the evolutionary sciences have made kind of a misandrist of me, by stark contrast. Scientific discovery and knowledge in the hands of women is quite a different thing from how men will tend to (ab)use it.

(To some extent, I suppose one could make the same argument of religion, but the reality is that feminist attitudes in women really do tend to have an inverse correlation to religiosity: the more deeply religious you are, the more you will hate women in general...and vice versa.)
Edited Yesterday, 11:17 PM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Yesterday, 11:16 PM #5

(Dec 5 2025, 7:33 AM)YesYourNigel This is why it pisses me off to no end when women fall for the "misogyny is a Christian problem!" scam that men sell them and act like men are their allies by virtue of being atheists. A lot of these men are not religious because it doesn't appeal enough to their entitled hedonism and their masculine Facts&Logic narcissism. They just replace religion with evopsych.

I may be unique here in this position, but as far as I'm concerned, science is not discredited by how moids rape it any more than atheism is discredited because, like you say, men often just embrace it really just to excuse their lifestyle pattern of getting women drunk and then ditching them. (No God, no judgment. How women consequently feel doesn't seem to matter to them quite so much as the opinion of a male figment of our collective imagination.) Quite frankly, the evolutionary sciences have made kind of a misandrist of me, by stark contrast. Scientific discovery and knowledge in the hands of women is quite a different thing from how men will tend to (ab)use it.

(To some extent, I suppose one could make the same argument of religion, but the reality is that feminist attitudes in women really do tend to have an inverse correlation to religiosity: the more deeply religious you are, the more you will hate women in general...and vice versa.)

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