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Jan 15 2025, 4:56 PM
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Pink News, January 15 2025.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/01/15/democrats-vicente-gonzalez-henry-cuellar-trans-sport-ban/

Quote:Texas Democrats Vicente Gonzalez and Henry Cuellar voted with Republicans to pass legislation that would ban trans women and girls from competing in women’s sports.

The Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act passed the House in a 218 to 206 vote on Tuesday (14 January), backed by a large majority of Republicans, and two Democrats. Three Republicans and six Democrats did not vote, and one Democrat, Don Davis of North Carolina, voted “present.”

The legislation would amend Title IX, the civil rights law prohibiting sex discrimination, in order to ban schools that receive federal funding from allowing trans girls and women from taking part in athletic programs or activities “designated for women or girls.”

The bill defines sex as “based solely on a person’s reproductive biology and genetics at birth.”

Thank you, Vicente Gonzalez and Henry Cuellar.

I'm curious about the six Democrats that did not vote.

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Pink News, January 15 2025.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/01/15/democrats-vicente-gonzalez-henry-cuellar-trans-sport-ban/

Quote:Texas Democrats Vicente Gonzalez and Henry Cuellar voted with Republicans to pass legislation that would ban trans women and girls from competing in women’s sports.

The Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act passed the House in a 218 to 206 vote on Tuesday (14 January), backed by a large majority of Republicans, and two Democrats. Three Republicans and six Democrats did not vote, and one Democrat, Don Davis of North Carolina, voted “present.”

The legislation would amend Title IX, the civil rights law prohibiting sex discrimination, in order to ban schools that receive federal funding from allowing trans girls and women from taking part in athletic programs or activities “designated for women or girls.”

The bill defines sex as “based solely on a person’s reproductive biology and genetics at birth.”

Thank you, Vicente Gonzalez and Henry Cuellar.

I'm curious about the six Democrats that did not vote.

Progress is progress.

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Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM
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The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.
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Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM #2

The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.

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Feb 21 2025, 4:51 PM
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(Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM)Colibri The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.

The Dems have definitely passed the point of being so open-minded that your brains fall out.

Trans activism has truly done a bang-up job of brainwashing people into believing that "5th grade biology" is somehow not based on observable fact. 

I hate that this law is probably a prelude to completely eradicating women's sports somehow. I just can't imagine a world in which this administration could do something that actually benefited women/girls.
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Feb 21 2025, 4:51 PM #3

(Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM)Colibri The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.

The Dems have definitely passed the point of being so open-minded that your brains fall out.

Trans activism has truly done a bang-up job of brainwashing people into believing that "5th grade biology" is somehow not based on observable fact. 

I hate that this law is probably a prelude to completely eradicating women's sports somehow. I just can't imagine a world in which this administration could do something that actually benefited women/girls.

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Feb 22 2025, 9:32 AM
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(Feb 21 2025, 4:51 PM)magdalyn
(Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM)Colibri The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.

The Dems have definitely passed the point of being so open-minded that your brains fall out.

Trans activism has truly done a bang-up job of brainwashing people into believing that "5th grade biology" is somehow not based on observable fact. 

I hate that this law is probably a prelude to completely eradicating women's sports somehow. I just can't imagine a world in which this administration could do something that actually benefited women/girls.

The "5th grade biology" thing isn't even accurate, at least from my experience in school. I learned some basic biology in that grade, but most of my understanding around sex, and why I could never in good conscience agree with pretty much any of the TRA nonsense pseudoscience arguments, is because of the advanced biology courses I had to take when I was working towards a degree in neuroscience.

So they try to shout women down by insulting us and acting like we are just too stupid and uneducated to understand the cOmPlExiTY of sex, yet my entire opinion on so much of this stuff comes from the fact that I actually did take the advanced classes, am educated on the topic and they are simply wrong. 

They're objectively wrong on sex determination, on sex being a "spectrum" (because they consistently conflate sex with sex characteristics and then extrapolate that into sheer misogyny, like claiming women with PCOS or women with smaller breasts are literally less female), and on sexed brains. It's almost funny to me because they spend so much time putting people down like we're just idiots but they not only lack a basic understanding of this subject, but then they also use it to dig up either old misogynistic ideas about women to prop up their nonsensical arguments or create entirely new extremely offensive takes on what a woman is. It's just insane to me. And it's especially insane to me how any woman could read these arguments and not see how sexist and wrong they are!

I also don't trust the Republicans to actually do something to help women so I'm waiting around until they do something else in the next 4 years to fuck up women's sports some other way.
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Feb 22 2025, 9:32 AM #4

(Feb 21 2025, 4:51 PM)magdalyn
(Jan 15 2025, 6:34 PM)Colibri The most important thing is that it passed. It's so frustrating and embarrassing that Democrats are anti-science now.

The Dems have definitely passed the point of being so open-minded that your brains fall out.

Trans activism has truly done a bang-up job of brainwashing people into believing that "5th grade biology" is somehow not based on observable fact. 

I hate that this law is probably a prelude to completely eradicating women's sports somehow. I just can't imagine a world in which this administration could do something that actually benefited women/girls.

The "5th grade biology" thing isn't even accurate, at least from my experience in school. I learned some basic biology in that grade, but most of my understanding around sex, and why I could never in good conscience agree with pretty much any of the TRA nonsense pseudoscience arguments, is because of the advanced biology courses I had to take when I was working towards a degree in neuroscience.

So they try to shout women down by insulting us and acting like we are just too stupid and uneducated to understand the cOmPlExiTY of sex, yet my entire opinion on so much of this stuff comes from the fact that I actually did take the advanced classes, am educated on the topic and they are simply wrong. 

They're objectively wrong on sex determination, on sex being a "spectrum" (because they consistently conflate sex with sex characteristics and then extrapolate that into sheer misogyny, like claiming women with PCOS or women with smaller breasts are literally less female), and on sexed brains. It's almost funny to me because they spend so much time putting people down like we're just idiots but they not only lack a basic understanding of this subject, but then they also use it to dig up either old misogynistic ideas about women to prop up their nonsensical arguments or create entirely new extremely offensive takes on what a woman is. It's just insane to me. And it's especially insane to me how any woman could read these arguments and not see how sexist and wrong they are!

I also don't trust the Republicans to actually do something to help women so I'm waiting around until they do something else in the next 4 years to fuck up women's sports some other way.

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Feb 22 2025, 10:08 AM
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Quote:The "5th grade biology" thing isn't even accurate, at least from my experience in school. I learned some basic biology in that grade, but most of my understanding around sex, and why I could never in good conscience agree with pretty much any of the TRA nonsense pseudoscience arguments, is because of the advanced biology courses I had to take when I was working towards a degree in neuroscience.

They are the ones that learned 2 seconds ago that sometimes there are errors and people end up with another combination than XX or XY and now act as if they are the experts. As if the actual experts didn't already know this and factored it into their understanding of the topic. When this gets dropped as a "gotcha" it seems like they genuinely can't imagine this not being a huge bombshell on the other person's worldview.

Plus the misunderstandings like "everyone starts as female" or the confusion that homologous organs can be interchangeable.

It's all so crazy making. For a long time I tried to explain these things because I thought if I could clear up the 'silly misunderstandings' then everything would he fine. But they cling to their anti-science worldview as hard as the evolution deniers.

And then there are the people that bring up clownfish or seahorses with 0 understanding as to why we can label those as male or female, and how those points actually prove the existence of sex. Like, we don't say the male seahorses carry the young because they really have a man soul inside.
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Feb 22 2025, 10:08 AM #5

Quote:The "5th grade biology" thing isn't even accurate, at least from my experience in school. I learned some basic biology in that grade, but most of my understanding around sex, and why I could never in good conscience agree with pretty much any of the TRA nonsense pseudoscience arguments, is because of the advanced biology courses I had to take when I was working towards a degree in neuroscience.

They are the ones that learned 2 seconds ago that sometimes there are errors and people end up with another combination than XX or XY and now act as if they are the experts. As if the actual experts didn't already know this and factored it into their understanding of the topic. When this gets dropped as a "gotcha" it seems like they genuinely can't imagine this not being a huge bombshell on the other person's worldview.

Plus the misunderstandings like "everyone starts as female" or the confusion that homologous organs can be interchangeable.

It's all so crazy making. For a long time I tried to explain these things because I thought if I could clear up the 'silly misunderstandings' then everything would he fine. But they cling to their anti-science worldview as hard as the evolution deniers.

And then there are the people that bring up clownfish or seahorses with 0 understanding as to why we can label those as male or female, and how those points actually prove the existence of sex. Like, we don't say the male seahorses carry the young because they really have a man soul inside.

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Feb 22 2025, 10:12 AM
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I guess if anyone actually said that to me IRL I'd answer 'really? that's brilliant! it should be easy then to test people's chromosomes and figure out which ones should get 'gender affirming surgery' and which ones it wouldn't be a good idea for. Thanks for sharing your expertise!'
Edited Feb 22 2025, 10:13 AM by drdee.
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Feb 22 2025, 10:12 AM #6

I guess if anyone actually said that to me IRL I'd answer 'really? that's brilliant! it should be easy then to test people's chromosomes and figure out which ones should get 'gender affirming surgery' and which ones it wouldn't be a good idea for. Thanks for sharing your expertise!'

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