White House Assesses Ways to Persuade Women to Have More Children

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Elsacat

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Apr 21 2025, 8:08 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html

https://archive.ph/4qZqX

Quote:Baby bonuses and menstrual cycle classes are among the ideas pitched to Trump aides as they consider plans to try boosting the birthrate.

Elsacat

Apr 21 2025, 8:08 AM #1

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/21/us/politics/baby-bonuses-fertility-planning-trump-aides-assess-ideas-to-boost-birthrate.html

https://archive.ph/4qZqX

Quote:Baby bonuses and menstrual cycle classes are among the ideas pitched to Trump aides as they consider plans to try boosting the birthrate.

OffMyTit

Apr 21 2025, 6:36 PM

Sounds like the dreaded welfare and sex ed to me. I doubt it will have the intended results. Educated women have fewer babies even when you throw money at them.

OffMyTit

Apr 21 2025, 6:36 PM #2

Sounds like the dreaded welfare and sex ed to me. I doubt it will have the intended results. Educated women have fewer babies even when you throw money at them.

Wrongtoy

Apr 21 2025, 7:29 PM

A work from home program until the child is 2 would be an incentive. So would subsidized childcare options. But instead, the doe has cut funding for head start. It sounds like the working class who fall for this will get LESS help so as benefits disproportionately go to to exclusive montisourri schools and the like.

One couple in the latter category are my nephew and probable fiancé. They met through an Ivy League. Sure, if they were promised they could work at home for two years after which three years of daycare would be paid for, they might go ahead with it.

Wrongtoy

Apr 21 2025, 7:29 PM #3

VerdantHorizon

Apr 21 2025, 10:12 PM

Quote:Another would give a $5,000 cash “baby bonus” to every American mother after delivery.

Labor costs on average eighteen-goddamn-thousand dollars. They'd be paying for a third of the labor and zero for everything that comes after.

Quote:A third calls on the government to fund programs that educate women on their menstrual cycles — in part so they can better understand when they are ovulating and able to conceive.

Is this an actual issue, that women don't know how/when in their cycle to get pregnant? I'd totally believe that there are many women who've been failed by sex ed to the extent that they don't know when they're ovulating, but is that stopping them from conceiving?

Quote:“I just think this administration is inherently pronatalist,” said the activist Simone Collins, referring to the movement to reverse declining birthrates.

Quote:“The President wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream,” she added. “As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation.”

It's chilling and nauseating to hear women speak like this.

I know many countries with declining birth rates are implementing policies like this, but I'm going to assume they'll end up going with the most harmful possible course of action.

Edited Apr 21 2025, 10:14 PM by VerdantHorizon.

VerdantHorizon

Apr 21 2025, 10:12 PM #4

Quote:Another would give a $5,000 cash “baby bonus” to every American mother after delivery.

Labor costs on average eighteen-goddamn-thousand dollars. They'd be paying for a third of the labor and zero for everything that comes after.

Quote:A third calls on the government to fund programs that educate women on their menstrual cycles — in part so they can better understand when they are ovulating and able to conceive.

Quote:“I just think this administration is inherently pronatalist,” said the activist Simone Collins, referring to the movement to reverse declining birthrates.

Quote:“The President wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream,” she added. “As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation.”

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Also discussed on r/WomenInNews: https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1k4mp7m/white_house_assesses_ways_to_persuade_women_to/

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Also discussed on r/WomenInNews: https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1k4mp7m/white_house_assesses_ways_to_persuade_women_to/

Wandering_Feminist56

Yesterday, 2:05 AM

(not a mother, nor an American)

I have so many questions. Do they not understand that the falling birthrate is due to major and complex economic and social issues? Do they not see that $5000 is an absolute pittance? Do they think that that'd lead to the ideal mother finally having that child? If someone genuinely wants a child, I'm not sure if 5k dollar is going to draw her over the line as this seems like an insulting amount. Who WOULD take it? Well, the types of women they'd prefer less to have kids?

If they want more children they need to completely restructure major parts of how society fuctions, and this goes for a lot of countries. There're so many reasons, from uncertain futures, declining social safety nets, rising costs, CoL that's way out of control, inability to find decent and affordable homes, lacking wages, absolute garbare tier men with garbage tier mentality...

But they think $5000 is going to do it? It's insulting.

Wandering_Feminist56

Yesterday, 2:05 AM #6

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Yesterday, 9:56 AM

Quote:The White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said in a statement that Mr. Trump “is proudly implementing policies to uplift American families.”

“The President wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream,” she added. “As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation.”

The same president who said he will "always protect the second amendment" in response to a school shooting?

George Carlin Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.

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Yesterday, 9:56 AM #7

Quote:The White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, said in a statement that Mr. Trump “is proudly implementing policies to uplift American families.”

“The President wants America to be a country where all children can safely grow up and achieve the American dream,” she added. “As a mother myself, I am proud to work for a president who is taking significant action to leave a better country for the next generation.”

The same president who said he will "always protect the second amendment" in response to a school shooting?

George Carlin Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.

flytraps_

Yesterday, 1:56 PM

I just saw an article concerning this and was about to share it here. I'm very concerned for the direction this is going in. I think their eventual goal is to make abortion illegal on a federal level and then move on to other birth control methods. Also the article I read concerning the matter states that one of their proposed "solutions" to get women to have more kids is to reserve 30% of scholarships for the Fullbright program for "applicants who are married or have children".

Edited Yesterday, 2:05 PM by flytraps_.

flytraps_

Yesterday, 1:56 PM #8

FantasticPause

4 hours ago

(Yesterday, 1:56 PM)flytraps_ I just saw an article concerning this and was about to share it here. I'm very concerned for the direction this is going in. I think their eventual goal is to make abortion illegal on a federal level and then move on to other birth control methods. Also the article I read concerning the matter states that one of their proposed "solutions" to get women to have more kids is to reserve 30% of scholarships for the Fullbright program for "applicants who are married or have children".

I think your instinct here is right. $5000 is a pittance but now they can say they don't hate women, look, they'll reward them with money if they have a baby!

I also think of teens getting pregnant and having the choice of seeking out an illegal abortion at great risk and difficulty to themselves and others, or getting $5000 and then giving the baby up for adoption. Young people might not realise the cost of giving birth in an American hospital.

For the far right, every additional baby, every additional oppressed woman, is a win. They don't need to encourage every woman to have more babies with this, only some. For the others they'll deny abortion, then they'll start on birth control, then with DEI protections gone they'll start firing women who have no recourse and sending them home to rely on men where they might as well finally have a baby since they're struggling to find work anyway.

There are a lot of ways this could go, but I really see this as part of a multi-pronged attack on women.

FantasticPause

4 hours ago #9

(Yesterday, 1:56 PM)flytraps_ I just saw an article concerning this and was about to share it here. I'm very concerned for the direction this is going in. I think their eventual goal is to make abortion illegal on a federal level and then move on to other birth control methods. Also the article I read concerning the matter states that one of their proposed "solutions" to get women to have more kids is to reserve 30% of scholarships for the Fullbright program for "applicants who are married or have children".

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