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Article Stop pretending religion can be feminist

Article Stop pretending religion can be feminist

 
May 3 2025, 7:43 AM
#1
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/stop-pretending-religion-can-be-feminist-3658491

I think some religions can be feminist, if the religion is female-centered in an uplifting way. Certain pagan religions, for example. I wouldn't tell someone she wasn't feminist just because she had those beliefs. But most of the world's mainstream religions have patriarchy and female oppression in common.
Elsacat
May 3 2025, 7:43 AM #1

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/stop-pretending-religion-can-be-feminist-3658491

I think some religions can be feminist, if the religion is female-centered in an uplifting way. Certain pagan religions, for example. I wouldn't tell someone she wasn't feminist just because she had those beliefs. But most of the world's mainstream religions have patriarchy and female oppression in common.

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May 3 2025, 4:21 PM
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May 4 2025, 3:38 AM
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I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.
amareldys
May 4 2025, 3:38 AM #3

I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.

May 4 2025, 8:23 AM
#4
(May 4 2025, 3:38 AM)amareldys I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.

Because starting your own religion feels like starting a cult. It's not the same as being part of a religion that's been handed down for centuries as if it really was an invention of God. I suppose they could try to create a "progressive branch" if they wanted.
Elsacat
May 4 2025, 8:23 AM #4

(May 4 2025, 3:38 AM)amareldys I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.

Because starting your own religion feels like starting a cult. It's not the same as being part of a religion that's been handed down for centuries as if it really was an invention of God. I suppose they could try to create a "progressive branch" if they wanted.

May 4 2025, 10:50 AM
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(May 4 2025, 8:23 AM)Elsacat
(May 4 2025, 3:38 AM)amareldys I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.

Because starting your own religion feels like starting a cult. It's not the same as being part of a religion that's been handed down for centuries as if it really was an invention of God. I suppose they could try to create a "progressive branch" if they wanted.

From my point of view, it was no different then than it is now. People who handed down religions for generations were handing down a religion that was the work of a person's (and collaborators) imagination - often to reshape their communities from a social, economic and political angle. The only difference between today's religions and say, Scientology is the amount of time it's been normalized into culture over generations.

They named the gods, give them personalities, and wrote the rules themselves after all. It's all man made.
noray
May 4 2025, 10:50 AM #5

(May 4 2025, 8:23 AM)Elsacat
(May 4 2025, 3:38 AM)amareldys I've always wondered why progressive Catholics try and make the Church more progressive rather than just going out and joining one of the million other religions out there. Or start their own. It's not the middle ages, we don't all have to be members of the same (or any) church or religion.

Because starting your own religion feels like starting a cult. It's not the same as being part of a religion that's been handed down for centuries as if it really was an invention of God. I suppose they could try to create a "progressive branch" if they wanted.

From my point of view, it was no different then than it is now. People who handed down religions for generations were handing down a religion that was the work of a person's (and collaborators) imagination - often to reshape their communities from a social, economic and political angle. The only difference between today's religions and say, Scientology is the amount of time it's been normalized into culture over generations.

They named the gods, give them personalities, and wrote the rules themselves after all. It's all man made.

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May 4 2025, 12:28 PM
#6
I loved this article, thank you for sharing. I appreciate she pulled absolutely no punches on any of the major world religions. She's right — scratch off the surface-level attempts at creating a modern "feminist" facade on any of them and see the misogyny that festers underneath.
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May 4 2025, 12:28 PM #6

I loved this article, thank you for sharing. I appreciate she pulled absolutely no punches on any of the major world religions. She's right — scratch off the surface-level attempts at creating a modern "feminist" facade on any of them and see the misogyny that festers underneath.

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