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Article Elon Musk Amplifies Bizarre Claim That 'Women Are Built To Be Traded'

Article Elon Musk Amplifies Bizarre Claim That 'Women Are Built To Be Traded'

 
Aug 2 2025, 8:34 AM
#1
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-women-built-to-be-traded_n_688bb945e4b0f5cda486f69e

https://archive.ph/JV8zK

Quote:In that interaction, Musk responded to a user who’d asked why “liberal white women hate white people so much” by speculating that “they’ve been programmed to do so by their teachers and the media.”

It's always education and the media that are the boogeymen. Evil teachers, woke evil college professors, the evil MSM, all conspiring to undermine wholesome American values like being white and women being commodities instead of humans.
Elsacat
Aug 2 2025, 8:34 AM #1

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-women-built-to-be-traded_n_688bb945e4b0f5cda486f69e

https://archive.ph/JV8zK

Quote:In that interaction, Musk responded to a user who’d asked why “liberal white women hate white people so much” by speculating that “they’ve been programmed to do so by their teachers and the media.”

It's always education and the media that are the boogeymen. Evil teachers, woke evil college professors, the evil MSM, all conspiring to undermine wholesome American values like being white and women being commodities instead of humans.

Aug 2 2025, 2:39 PM
#2
I've always wondered why there are so many people talking about Elon Musk as if he's some sort of genius. Here he is, uncritically retweeting an opinion that strokes his male ego, instead of reading more reputable sources that would have told him that not every community even practiced patrilocality to begin with.
Magpie
Aug 2 2025, 2:39 PM #2

I've always wondered why there are so many people talking about Elon Musk as if he's some sort of genius. Here he is, uncritically retweeting an opinion that strokes his male ego, instead of reading more reputable sources that would have told him that not every community even practiced patrilocality to begin with.

Aug 2 2025, 6:08 PM
#3
Quote:Musk responded to a user who’d asked why “liberal white women hate white people so much”

Can I just say it's funny how conservatives recognise women being more objective, compassionate and far less invested in male white supremacist pissing contests (which is bad ofc), while the liberals do what they can to portray white women as poster children of ignorant white supremacism?

Quote:I've always wondered why there are so many people talking about Elon Musk as if he's some sort of genius.

Men are very easily impressed, especially with anything that panders to and normalises their male supremacist fantasies. After all, they think Jordan Peterson telling them to make their bed is the height of genius, despite hearing the same thing from their mother all their lives.
Edited Aug 3 2025, 5:15 AM by YesYourNigel.
YesYourNigel
Aug 2 2025, 6:08 PM #3

Quote:Musk responded to a user who’d asked why “liberal white women hate white people so much”

Can I just say it's funny how conservatives recognise women being more objective, compassionate and far less invested in male white supremacist pissing contests (which is bad ofc), while the liberals do what they can to portray white women as poster children of ignorant white supremacism?

Quote:I've always wondered why there are so many people talking about Elon Musk as if he's some sort of genius.

Men are very easily impressed, especially with anything that panders to and normalises their male supremacist fantasies. After all, they think Jordan Peterson telling them to make their bed is the height of genius, despite hearing the same thing from their mother all their lives.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
42
Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM
#4
Men aren't smarter, they just lack empathy. There's a vast difference. Empathy -- something chainsaw man knows especially little of -- is not a pointless frill, it's an important survival skill that's been evolved to ensure the perpetuation of our species.

The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Musk's obsession with race has more to do with a white man from South Africa projecting his sense of sexual inferiority to black men, who average bigger dick sizes, onto his female counterparts than it does with any kind of serious or smart analysis of a white woman's response to wokeness, especially considering that most of them voted for Trump each time he's been on the ballot (albeit by dwindling margins). It also completely ignores the statistical reality that American white men on average feel no more pride in their ethnicity than do their female counterparts despite being less likely to attend any of kind of liberal arts university or other den of liberalism or to consume politically liberal-skewing media.
Edited Aug 2 2025, 9:24 PM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM #4

Men aren't smarter, they just lack empathy. There's a vast difference. Empathy -- something chainsaw man knows especially little of -- is not a pointless frill, it's an important survival skill that's been evolved to ensure the perpetuation of our species.

The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Musk's obsession with race has more to do with a white man from South Africa projecting his sense of sexual inferiority to black men, who average bigger dick sizes, onto his female counterparts than it does with any kind of serious or smart analysis of a white woman's response to wokeness, especially considering that most of them voted for Trump each time he's been on the ballot (albeit by dwindling margins). It also completely ignores the statistical reality that American white men on average feel no more pride in their ethnicity than do their female counterparts despite being less likely to attend any of kind of liberal arts university or other den of liberalism or to consume politically liberal-skewing media.

Aug 3 2025, 3:36 AM
#5
(Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM)Impress Polly The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Apologies for being a shameless killjoy, but that part of the theory isn't true either. The idea that the female brain has greater interconnection between the two hemispheres comes from just one study that got a lot of coverage. A different study found that this difference is due to brain size, not sex. That's a pretty common theme with studies that claim to have found a difference between male and female brains. It's also where the "greater efficiency" claim comes from, we perform the same despite on average having smaller brains.
Magpie
Aug 3 2025, 3:36 AM #5

(Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM)Impress Polly The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Apologies for being a shameless killjoy, but that part of the theory isn't true either. The idea that the female brain has greater interconnection between the two hemispheres comes from just one study that got a lot of coverage. A different study found that this difference is due to brain size, not sex. That's a pretty common theme with studies that claim to have found a difference between male and female brains. It's also where the "greater efficiency" claim comes from, we perform the same despite on average having smaller brains.

Aug 3 2025, 5:19 AM
#6
(Aug 3 2025, 3:36 AM)Magpie
(Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM)Impress Polly The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Apologies for being a shameless killjoy, but that part of the theory isn't true either. The idea that the female brain has greater interconnection between the two hemispheres comes from just one study that got a lot of coverage. A different study found that this difference is due to brain size, not sex. That's a pretty common theme with studies that claim to have found a difference between male and female brains. It's also where the "greater efficiency" claim comes from, we perform the same despite on average having smaller brains.
This is why I hate people bringing out brainsex "studies", regardless of which side - they're always badly done and hastily politicised.

I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing
YesYourNigel
Aug 3 2025, 5:19 AM #6

(Aug 3 2025, 3:36 AM)Magpie
(Aug 2 2025, 8:58 PM)Impress Polly The retweeted post is right about one thing: the female brain is in fact designed to make us more adaptable than men. Adaptability being the essence of survival, and women indeed tending to average longer lifespans than men everywhere on Earth that we're allowed to, one might reach the conclusion, in fact, that the comparative neurological interconnection of the female brain suggests we are the overall mentally superior sex. The same conclusion can also be inferred of the far greater speed and general efficiency with which the female brain processes information. Quite the opposite of Ketamine Maximus's conclusion about us, in other words.

Apologies for being a shameless killjoy, but that part of the theory isn't true either. The idea that the female brain has greater interconnection between the two hemispheres comes from just one study that got a lot of coverage. A different study found that this difference is due to brain size, not sex. That's a pretty common theme with studies that claim to have found a difference between male and female brains. It's also where the "greater efficiency" claim comes from, we perform the same despite on average having smaller brains.
This is why I hate people bringing out brainsex "studies", regardless of which side - they're always badly done and hastily politicised.


I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing

Persephone
Trapped in the land of the dead 🪷
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Aug 3 2025, 11:16 AM
#7
Literally one of the strongest points on our side is that the human brain is clearly the same for both sexes. Lifestyle differences are more noticeable than sex differences in brains, the main difference is just size. Our bodies are wildly different yet the most critical, most human part of us appears built from the same blueprint.
Persephone
Trapped in the land of the dead 🪷
Aug 3 2025, 11:16 AM #7

Literally one of the strongest points on our side is that the human brain is clearly the same for both sexes. Lifestyle differences are more noticeable than sex differences in brains, the main difference is just size. Our bodies are wildly different yet the most critical, most human part of us appears built from the same blueprint.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
42
Aug 3 2025, 7:06 PM
#8
Only I could ruin this thread, congratulate me! :catcringe:

First let me say that it seriously isn't my intention to cause friction around here, so I do want to apologize for that. My insertion of the male/female brain difference issue was an unnecessary addition. I just thought it directly relevant to the thinking that Musk was promoting. Although I have my opinions, which are my own, I have a great deal of respect for this community. It's a breath of fresh air in an ocean of sexual liberalism and trans activist bullshit, so please don't let my I admit certain toxicity be a stumbling block that scares anyone away! I'm a very reserved person offline who's in recent years gotten pretty used to coping with my inhibitions by unleashing the full force of my inner misandrist rage upon an unsuspecting internet and maybe I should tone police myself a little better and hold back a bit more when it comes to opinions that are bound to be controversial.

To clarify, for those who don't know, the truth is that, as I was saying over on the Fourth Wave thread, I moved on from this blue pilled blank slate theory of the case stuff a number of years ago and frankly, in my observation, so has life. I know full well that the prevailing consensus (dogma in my opinion at this point) among radfems is that there are no built-in mental differences between women and men and it's all just the ways we're socialized and that, without this way of thinking, there's no argument to be made against trans politics or "tradwife" servitude or what have you. Either we are the equals of men or we are inferior. That is the self-deprecating range of thinking. I understand this mindset because it used to be mine too back in the r/GenderCritical days (which I remain grateful for).

Where we can still agree in this regard is in that human brains aren't sexually dimorphic like our bodies (to which end, I reject claims that my opinions constitute "gender essentialism"), but that is the end of the agreement. Only conservatives and artificial intelligence think human brains are sexually dimorphic (draw your own conclusions about that comparison). But while sex differences in brain structure and function may exist on a continuum rather than in a rigidly dimorphic way, in aggregate their existence is quite real and proven. This claim that the comparative interconnection of the female brain is based on "one study", for example, is total nonsense and only pure groupthink alone has allowed that assertion to go unchallenged on this thread up to now. It's way more than that and in fact the prevailing view among neurologists today and you can look that up.

Does it matter who is right? Yes, I think it does. I think when feminists just dismiss the growing and increasingly influential field of evolutionary psychology, for example, in favor of old subjectivist type philosophies, it causes the movement to fall behind the curve of emerging scientific knowledge and that's not good for us. Men are already weaponizing knowledge acquired through this field of science and we need to equip ourselves to fight back against that!

I feel pride in being female for reasons that are not woo-woo at all. But I also don't want that to be a stumbling block for anyone by expressing it.
Edited Aug 4 2025, 5:48 PM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Aug 3 2025, 7:06 PM #8

Only I could ruin this thread, congratulate me! :catcringe:

First let me say that it seriously isn't my intention to cause friction around here, so I do want to apologize for that. My insertion of the male/female brain difference issue was an unnecessary addition. I just thought it directly relevant to the thinking that Musk was promoting. Although I have my opinions, which are my own, I have a great deal of respect for this community. It's a breath of fresh air in an ocean of sexual liberalism and trans activist bullshit, so please don't let my I admit certain toxicity be a stumbling block that scares anyone away! I'm a very reserved person offline who's in recent years gotten pretty used to coping with my inhibitions by unleashing the full force of my inner misandrist rage upon an unsuspecting internet and maybe I should tone police myself a little better and hold back a bit more when it comes to opinions that are bound to be controversial.

To clarify, for those who don't know, the truth is that, as I was saying over on the Fourth Wave thread, I moved on from this blue pilled blank slate theory of the case stuff a number of years ago and frankly, in my observation, so has life. I know full well that the prevailing consensus (dogma in my opinion at this point) among radfems is that there are no built-in mental differences between women and men and it's all just the ways we're socialized and that, without this way of thinking, there's no argument to be made against trans politics or "tradwife" servitude or what have you. Either we are the equals of men or we are inferior. That is the self-deprecating range of thinking. I understand this mindset because it used to be mine too back in the r/GenderCritical days (which I remain grateful for).

Where we can still agree in this regard is in that human brains aren't sexually dimorphic like our bodies (to which end, I reject claims that my opinions constitute "gender essentialism"), but that is the end of the agreement. Only conservatives and artificial intelligence think human brains are sexually dimorphic (draw your own conclusions about that comparison). But while sex differences in brain structure and function may exist on a continuum rather than in a rigidly dimorphic way, in aggregate their existence is quite real and proven. This claim that the comparative interconnection of the female brain is based on "one study", for example, is total nonsense and only pure groupthink alone has allowed that assertion to go unchallenged on this thread up to now. It's way more than that and in fact the prevailing view among neurologists today and you can look that up.

Does it matter who is right? Yes, I think it does. I think when feminists just dismiss the growing and increasingly influential field of evolutionary psychology, for example, in favor of old subjectivist type philosophies, it causes the movement to fall behind the curve of emerging scientific knowledge and that's not good for us. Men are already weaponizing knowledge acquired through this field of science and we need to equip ourselves to fight back against that!

I feel pride in being female for reasons that are not woo-woo at all. But I also don't want that to be a stumbling block for anyone by expressing it.

Aug 4 2025, 5:37 AM
#9
I want to start off by saying that I personally did not think your previous comment "ruined the thread" and the topic itself was relevant to the tweet being discussed so no issue there either. I am also not bothered by any "misandry". If I had felt differently I wouldn't have tried to soften my statement.

What I am not a fan of is the assumptions being made about me and the other commenters on the thread. My comment was not an opinion derived from self-deprecation, dogma, groupthink or ignorance of modern-day science. It was based on the various articles, studies and books I've read both out of pure interest and as part of my education. The part you seem to take particular issue with was based on this article (published in 2021): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763421000804?via%3Dihub .

I'd also like to point out that at no point did I try to claim that our brains are blank slates at birth or that we all have identical brains. All I did is point out the reality that supposed brain sex differences often do not survive correction for brain size (which the widely reported study declaring sex differences in brain hemisphere connectivity notably did not do).

If you want to discuss this topic further I am more than willing, although this thread would probably not be the best place for that.
Magpie
Aug 4 2025, 5:37 AM #9

I want to start off by saying that I personally did not think your previous comment "ruined the thread" and the topic itself was relevant to the tweet being discussed so no issue there either. I am also not bothered by any "misandry". If I had felt differently I wouldn't have tried to soften my statement.

What I am not a fan of is the assumptions being made about me and the other commenters on the thread. My comment was not an opinion derived from self-deprecation, dogma, groupthink or ignorance of modern-day science. It was based on the various articles, studies and books I've read both out of pure interest and as part of my education. The part you seem to take particular issue with was based on this article (published in 2021): https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763421000804?via%3Dihub .

I'd also like to point out that at no point did I try to claim that our brains are blank slates at birth or that we all have identical brains. All I did is point out the reality that supposed brain sex differences often do not survive correction for brain size (which the widely reported study declaring sex differences in brain hemisphere connectivity notably did not do).

If you want to discuss this topic further I am more than willing, although this thread would probably not be the best place for that.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
42
Aug 7 2025, 3:58 AM
#10
Okay good, I'm often kinda vaguely worried about not being polite enough most places that I go online, lol. Concerning other stuff, I was obviously responding to three people who seemed to share a familiar objection to my original comment at the same time with my prior post, so I do apologize for any mischaracterization of your views.

Anyway you're right, this really isn't the right place to have this debate (the original subject is dead anyway at this point) and maybe I will start a new thread on the subject at some point, but for now I think it suffices to simply conclude on the note that the evidence of overall female mental superiority can also be found well beyond the field of neuroscience. Consider the real-world results we see in the realm of academia, for instance. Consider Susan and Daniel Voyer's meta-analysis of 97 years of data on school marks or Gijsbert Stoet and David Geary's 2015 study of 15-year-old's academic performance across many dozens of countries with widely varying levels of gender equality. Their considerable evidence suggests that female academic performance in general is higher more or less across the board, regardless of time or space, often even in the face of high levels of cultural discrimination against women and girls, and that this is true across all levels of schooling, from elementary school straight through college. It all combines to strongly suggest that the difference isn't primarily cultural, but mainly natural. In fact, if anything, the mounting real-world evidence from the world of academia seems to suggest that neuroscience may actually be underestimating the overall natural female mental advantage, not over-selling it. 

Well anyway, I'll just leave it at that thought.
Edited Aug 7 2025, 4:03 AM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Aug 7 2025, 3:58 AM #10

Okay good, I'm often kinda vaguely worried about not being polite enough most places that I go online, lol. Concerning other stuff, I was obviously responding to three people who seemed to share a familiar objection to my original comment at the same time with my prior post, so I do apologize for any mischaracterization of your views.

Anyway you're right, this really isn't the right place to have this debate (the original subject is dead anyway at this point) and maybe I will start a new thread on the subject at some point, but for now I think it suffices to simply conclude on the note that the evidence of overall female mental superiority can also be found well beyond the field of neuroscience. Consider the real-world results we see in the realm of academia, for instance. Consider Susan and Daniel Voyer's meta-analysis of 97 years of data on school marks or Gijsbert Stoet and David Geary's 2015 study of 15-year-old's academic performance across many dozens of countries with widely varying levels of gender equality. Their considerable evidence suggests that female academic performance in general is higher more or less across the board, regardless of time or space, often even in the face of high levels of cultural discrimination against women and girls, and that this is true across all levels of schooling, from elementary school straight through college. It all combines to strongly suggest that the difference isn't primarily cultural, but mainly natural. In fact, if anything, the mounting real-world evidence from the world of academia seems to suggest that neuroscience may actually be underestimating the overall natural female mental advantage, not over-selling it. 

Well anyway, I'll just leave it at that thought.

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