Ways Coeducation Hurts Girls
Ways Coeducation Hurts Girls
Sep 11 2025, 8:48 PM
Quote:coeducation hurts girls: why we need single-sex public schools in Western countries
argument in title. in my (Western) country, you cannot access an all-girls education unless you shell out $$$$ for a private, usually religious school. this ensures that young girls of limited means are forced into coed public schools filled with boys who are violent, pornsick, and exhibiting extremist misogyny at younger and younger ages thanks to influencers like Andrew Tate.
I fundamentally disagree with coeducation. Girls cannot thrive in coed schools. Girls rarely thrive with male teachers. Say what you will about the Muslim world and its awful attitude toward women, but there are more female engineers and mathematicians coming out of countries like Egypt, Jordan and the Emirates than in more gender-equal regions like Europe, North America and Latin America. Why? Because in the Muslim world all schools are single-sex and teachers usually match the sex of the students, so little girls learn math and science from female teachers. Little girls have women STEM role models and learn STEM in all-female environments You can read about more about this phenomenon here, "The STEM Paradox: Why are Muslim-Majority Countries Producing So Many Female Engineers?"
Meanwhile in the West, I went to a coed STEM magnet public school where all the engineering and math teachers were male and all the humanities and soft science teachers were female. The result? Boys bullied the girls harshly in STEM classes. A boy told me in a sixth grade compsci class that "computers are for boys" and the emotionally cold male teacher just laughed when I complained. My only safe haven was English/history class where I had kind women as teachers. As a result, my natural love for science was crushed and I ended up going into the humanities because I associated math and science classes with being bullied by boys. This is a systemic phenomenon in the West; I know many girls and women who pursued humanities despite being good at math and science because they felt that math was "for boys".
Other issues with coed schools:
I haven't seen this topic discussed enough in 4B spaces, but I truly believe we must help the next generation of girls by campaigning for single-sex public education in the West. It's unfair that only rich girls can enjoy the safe haven of all girls schools. Coeducation hurts girls.
- School shootings are a big problem in my country. It's gender unequal: boys are doing the killing, girls are doing the dying. Almost no school shooting has ever been perpetrated by a girl or woman, but women and girls are always included in the victims. If we made public schools single-sex tomorrow, I believe we would see a 50% decrease in school shootings. Why don't we care enough about our daughters' safety to make this happen??
- Sexual harassment and misogynistic bullying. Depending on my age and location, I was sexualized by some male peers while others told me I was ugly and should kill myself because of my ugly face. Almost all of my school bullies were male; girls rarely even insulted me while boys made sport of calling me an ugly b*tch, flat-chested, denigrating my facial features, saying my nose was too big etc... A boy threw a chair at my face once just because he thought I was ugly and wanted to hurt me. So much for "Mean Girls": my problem was never mean girls, it was cruel and violent boys. I'm sure others can relate.
To add a thought of my own, a further value-added to specifically making public education single-sex would be that girls also wouldn't have to be subjected to lessons in faiths that preach male worship in order to gain these benefits (unless they live in like the U.S. states of Texas or Louisiana or something where Christianity is now taught in public schools too by law).
Full disclosure: I was once good at math until it started involving letters. My math teachers/professors from high school on were consistently male and never did seem too helpful so much as condescending. I wound up requiring professional tutoring just to narrowly pass Algebra 2. By contrast, I wound up faring much better in English and history myself, not unlike Catastrophe Jr., and social sciences. My teachers/professors for those subjects were nearly always female. When I read a post like the above, I can't help wondering how things might've worked out differently for me in a female-only schooling environment. After all, I am kind of a technically-minded nerd who enjoys things like making lists, organizing things, and reading lots of astronomy, paleontology, and archeology type articles, and other fairly left-brain-heavy sorts of hobbies, interests, and quirks, so it seems like I actually should've been a more natural match for a STEM field of study than I wound up being. Who is to say?
Edited Sep 12 2025, 9:10 AM by Impress Polly.
Saw this on the 4B sub and thought I'd share. It's was written by a woman by the screen name catastrophejr (which...yes).
Quote:coeducation hurts girls: why we need single-sex public schools in Western countries
argument in title. in my (Western) country, you cannot access an all-girls education unless you shell out $$$$ for a private, usually religious school. this ensures that young girls of limited means are forced into coed public schools filled with boys who are violent, pornsick, and exhibiting extremist misogyny at younger and younger ages thanks to influencers like Andrew Tate.
I fundamentally disagree with coeducation. Girls cannot thrive in coed schools. Girls rarely thrive with male teachers. Say what you will about the Muslim world and its awful attitude toward women, but there are more female engineers and mathematicians coming out of countries like Egypt, Jordan and the Emirates than in more gender-equal regions like Europe, North America and Latin America. Why? Because in the Muslim world all schools are single-sex and teachers usually match the sex of the students, so little girls learn math and science from female teachers. Little girls have women STEM role models and learn STEM in all-female environments You can read about more about this phenomenon here, "The STEM Paradox: Why are Muslim-Majority Countries Producing So Many Female Engineers?"
Meanwhile in the West, I went to a coed STEM magnet public school where all the engineering and math teachers were male and all the humanities and soft science teachers were female. The result? Boys bullied the girls harshly in STEM classes. A boy told me in a sixth grade compsci class that "computers are for boys" and the emotionally cold male teacher just laughed when I complained. My only safe haven was English/history class where I had kind women as teachers. As a result, my natural love for science was crushed and I ended up going into the humanities because I associated math and science classes with being bullied by boys. This is a systemic phenomenon in the West; I know many girls and women who pursued humanities despite being good at math and science because they felt that math was "for boys".
Other issues with coed schools:
I haven't seen this topic discussed enough in 4B spaces, but I truly believe we must help the next generation of girls by campaigning for single-sex public education in the West. It's unfair that only rich girls can enjoy the safe haven of all girls schools. Coeducation hurts girls.
- School shootings are a big problem in my country. It's gender unequal: boys are doing the killing, girls are doing the dying. Almost no school shooting has ever been perpetrated by a girl or woman, but women and girls are always included in the victims. If we made public schools single-sex tomorrow, I believe we would see a 50% decrease in school shootings. Why don't we care enough about our daughters' safety to make this happen??
- Sexual harassment and misogynistic bullying. Depending on my age and location, I was sexualized by some male peers while others told me I was ugly and should kill myself because of my ugly face. Almost all of my school bullies were male; girls rarely even insulted me while boys made sport of calling me an ugly b*tch, flat-chested, denigrating my facial features, saying my nose was too big etc... A boy threw a chair at my face once just because he thought I was ugly and wanted to hurt me. So much for "Mean Girls": my problem was never mean girls, it was cruel and violent boys. I'm sure others can relate.
To add a thought of my own, a further value-added to specifically making public education single-sex would be that girls also wouldn't have to be subjected to lessons in faiths that preach male worship in order to gain these benefits (unless they live in like the U.S. states of Texas or Louisiana or something where Christianity is now taught in public schools too by law).
Full disclosure: I was once good at math until it started involving letters. My math teachers/professors from high school on were consistently male and never did seem too helpful so much as condescending. I wound up requiring professional tutoring just to narrowly pass Algebra 2. By contrast, I wound up faring much better in English and history myself, not unlike Catastrophe Jr., and social sciences. My teachers/professors for those subjects were nearly always female. When I read a post like the above, I can't help wondering how things might've worked out differently for me in a female-only schooling environment. After all, I am kind of a technically-minded nerd who enjoys things like making lists, organizing things, and reading lots of astronomy, paleontology, and archeology type articles, and other fairly left-brain-heavy sorts of hobbies, interests, and quirks, so it seems like I actually should've been a more natural match for a STEM field of study than I wound up being. Who is to say?
