Discussion Moids Prefer Stupid Women
Discussion Moids Prefer Stupid Women
Quote:In the study a high IQ hampered a woman's chance of getting married, with a 40 per cent drop in marital prospects for every 16-point rise. The opposite was true for their male class-mates, whose equivalent chance of being married rose by 35 per cent for a 16-point rise in IQ. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jan/23/gender.comment
54% of single men in the U.S. right now are looking for a partner, but only 34% of American single women are. A growing number of women today are finding that they are happier single. Men, tending to have fewer friends and other social connections, not so much. Men need you more than you need them, in other words. Marriage tends to add years to a man's life, but reduces a woman's. That's in no small part because men fail to prioritize friendships the way women do and instead lean on women to solve all their problems. A woman, especially today, is expected to be her man's unpaid therapist, in addition to other things. Being here on Cloven Hooves, you probably knew all of this, but did you also know that intelligence makes you unattractive to men?
This is something I found years ago back on the Black Pill Feminism sub on Said It.
Quote:In the study a high IQ hampered a woman's chance of getting married, with a 40 per cent drop in marital prospects for every 16-point rise. The opposite was true for their male class-mates, whose equivalent chance of being married rose by 35 per cent for a 16-point rise in IQ. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jan/23/gender.comment
Quote:Men don't choose wives on the basis of their high IQs. We're starting to learn why
Quote:If gender skirmishes continue at their current rate, my partner glumly observed, men will fade into extinction and women will manage fine without them.
Quote:What with test-tube babies, cloning, a falling birth-rate, have-it-all career women prevailing like never before, it seems as if good, old-fashioned, instinct-driven sexual selection - falling in love across a crowded room, fools give you reasons, wise men never try, all that - was totally passe.
Quote:How interesting that we automatically assume that men are put off by cleverness in women. Perhaps the brainy women did not want to get married. Possibly they could not find men clever enough to satisfy them.
Quote:But these interpretations hardly merit more than a passing thought because this study simply reinforces what we know to be broadly true
Quote:that most women do want a committed partner and that most stable marriages occur on a power gradient, with the man being - metaphorically - on top.
Quote:On the question of attracting a mate, women think men are so lucky.
Quote:Health and fitness are vital, but by far the most irresistible trait is power. For the modern man, there are myriad ways this can be displayed:
Quote:For the modern man, there are myriad ways this can be displayed: conspicuous wealth, a flashy car, a yacht, extravagant dressing, champagne, cigars, caviar; gambling extravagantly and flamboyantly; ostentatious risk-taking; a high-powered job such as a politician's; preferably being famous, one's face flashed up frequently on TV screens.
Quote:You do not need to be handsome and brawny if you are a Yasser Arafat, a Bernie Ecclestone, a Stephen Hawking.
Quote:The rapid evolutionary enlargement of the human brain has vexed scientists for decades. Why did it happen? One of the theories is that this is the ultimate winning ticket in the sexual selection stakes, with the human mind going into a frenzied serial expansion for no better reason than that 'wit, virtuosity, inventiveness and individuality turn other people on'
Quote:But unfortunately for us women, it is uni-directional, for if we get too bright it can be a turn-off.
Quote:Thus, in Love Actually, Hugh Grant's suave prime minister finds a soulmate in Martine McCutcheon's comely tea-lady, while Colin Firth plays a writer who falls for a Portuguese woman. Knowing no English she cannot answer back.
Quote:Our signals are the age-old ones of health, symmetry, beauty (as perceived in your own particular ethnic group and culture)
Quote:For Darwinian evolution is not about survival but about reproduction of the fittest.
Quote:For those who dismiss this as sci-psychobabble, remember that all this happens well below conscious level.
Quote:Our hominid ancestry certainly included a protracted phase when the males competed for the alpha role, in which the top male took all the advantages, all the dictatorial powers, and most of the group matings.
Quote:Small wonder, then, that the male progeny, generations on, still like to rule the roost in their home patches. Most men I know nurse secret dreams of being 'benign' dictators.
Quote:We see how fragile are the marriages of those in which the female has the whip hand of power in the shape of fame, success, wealth, royalty. In contrast, marriages where the female status is unequivocally inferior, including arranged marriages, there is a greater stability.
Quote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Quote:I am not making judgments here; but women have to accept that coming in to our own and achieving the full potential of our (seemingly superior) capacity to use education will undoubtedly make us more inaccessible as partners. More choosy, and therefore not always successful.
Quote:Many of us would settle for that.
Quote:But if we want a partner, we can also use our brains creatively.
Quote:We don't have to let on how clever we are: our species has supreme skills at dissembling. Many women in the Victorian era, when they were definitely second-class citizens, learned how to manipulate their husbands, to get their own way by making themselves indispensable and powerful.
Quote:Many a famous man has had a silent female prompt at his elbow, and women have been happy to shine in reflected glory. This, as much as innate male behaviour, explains the glass ceiling.
Quote:Because a big-brained species has infants born too soon and therefore unusually helpless, a woman needs to keep her man around her as long as possible to help nurture the children.
Wow, this is one of the worst articles I've made myself read. It talks about some study that it never links to or summarises, merely mentions, then extrapolates evopsych bullshit from it which it then passes of as science, and then gives women tradwife-style advice on how to keep themselves looking dumb to keep the monkey-brained man around (and ofc you want to keep the man around, because you yourself evolved to be a monkey-brained sex slave to him).
Quote:Men don't choose wives on the basis of their high IQs. We're starting to learn why
Quote:If gender skirmishes continue at their current rate, my partner glumly observed, men will fade into extinction and women will manage fine without them.
Quote:What with test-tube babies, cloning, a falling birth-rate, have-it-all career women prevailing like never before, it seems as if good, old-fashioned, instinct-driven sexual selection - falling in love across a crowded room, fools give you reasons, wise men never try, all that - was totally passe.
Quote:How interesting that we automatically assume that men are put off by cleverness in women. Perhaps the brainy women did not want to get married. Possibly they could not find men clever enough to satisfy them.
Quote:But these interpretations hardly merit more than a passing thought because this study simply reinforces what we know to be broadly true
Quote:that most women do want a committed partner and that most stable marriages occur on a power gradient, with the man being - metaphorically - on top.
Quote:On the question of attracting a mate, women think men are so lucky.
Quote:Health and fitness are vital, but by far the most irresistible trait is power. For the modern man, there are myriad ways this can be displayed:
Quote:For the modern man, there are myriad ways this can be displayed: conspicuous wealth, a flashy car, a yacht, extravagant dressing, champagne, cigars, caviar; gambling extravagantly and flamboyantly; ostentatious risk-taking; a high-powered job such as a politician's; preferably being famous, one's face flashed up frequently on TV screens.
Quote:You do not need to be handsome and brawny if you are a Yasser Arafat, a Bernie Ecclestone, a Stephen Hawking.
Quote:The rapid evolutionary enlargement of the human brain has vexed scientists for decades. Why did it happen? One of the theories is that this is the ultimate winning ticket in the sexual selection stakes, with the human mind going into a frenzied serial expansion for no better reason than that 'wit, virtuosity, inventiveness and individuality turn other people on'
Quote:But unfortunately for us women, it is uni-directional, for if we get too bright it can be a turn-off.
Quote:Thus, in Love Actually, Hugh Grant's suave prime minister finds a soulmate in Martine McCutcheon's comely tea-lady, while Colin Firth plays a writer who falls for a Portuguese woman. Knowing no English she cannot answer back.
Quote:Our signals are the age-old ones of health, symmetry, beauty (as perceived in your own particular ethnic group and culture)
Quote:For Darwinian evolution is not about survival but about reproduction of the fittest.
Quote:For those who dismiss this as sci-psychobabble, remember that all this happens well below conscious level.
Quote:Our hominid ancestry certainly included a protracted phase when the males competed for the alpha role, in which the top male took all the advantages, all the dictatorial powers, and most of the group matings.
Quote:Small wonder, then, that the male progeny, generations on, still like to rule the roost in their home patches. Most men I know nurse secret dreams of being 'benign' dictators.
Quote:We see how fragile are the marriages of those in which the female has the whip hand of power in the shape of fame, success, wealth, royalty. In contrast, marriages where the female status is unequivocally inferior, including arranged marriages, there is a greater stability.
Quote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Quote:I am not making judgments here; but women have to accept that coming in to our own and achieving the full potential of our (seemingly superior) capacity to use education will undoubtedly make us more inaccessible as partners. More choosy, and therefore not always successful.
Quote:Many of us would settle for that.
Quote:But if we want a partner, we can also use our brains creatively.
Quote:We don't have to let on how clever we are: our species has supreme skills at dissembling. Many women in the Victorian era, when they were definitely second-class citizens, learned how to manipulate their husbands, to get their own way by making themselves indispensable and powerful.
Quote:Many a famous man has had a silent female prompt at his elbow, and women have been happy to shine in reflected glory. This, as much as innate male behaviour, explains the glass ceiling.
Quote:Because a big-brained species has infants born too soon and therefore unusually helpless, a woman needs to keep her man around her as long as possible to help nurture the children.
(Oct 19 2025, 11:32 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Wut? Can someone translate this incel-esque word salad to me?
(Oct 19 2025, 11:32 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Wut? Can someone translate this incel-esque word salad to me?
(Oct 19 2025, 9:36 PM)VerdantHorizonI love how women are simultaneously these asexual motherly Madonna creatures who are happy dating schlubby men because they only get spiritual and recreational value out of relationships, but also they're Whores who wants to have sex with as many men as possible just out of spite for some poor Nice Guy.(Oct 19 2025, 11:32 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Wut? Can someone translate this incel-esque word salad to me?
"Women are cheating sluts conniving to steal sperm," I think. As if women want babies from random men
(Oct 19 2025, 9:36 PM)VerdantHorizonI love how women are simultaneously these asexual motherly Madonna creatures who are happy dating schlubby men because they only get spiritual and recreational value out of relationships, but also they're Whores who wants to have sex with as many men as possible just out of spite for some poor Nice Guy.(Oct 19 2025, 11:32 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:In the age-old pattern of female infidelity, we can usually commandeer a man's sperm without marrying him.
Wut? Can someone translate this incel-esque word salad to me?
"Women are cheating sluts conniving to steal sperm," I think. As if women want babies from random men
...Er thanks for the engagement! While the factoids concerning the relationship between a woman's IQ and marriage rates are really more the point here than Margaret Cook's commentary on them in the Guardian was (and also was only part of the larger picture I was seeking to paint in the OP), I've nonetheless found the responses to interesting and sometimes fun and satisfying to read (especially the point that evolution isn't necessarily our friend). I will say this though: if you look at the article's date, you'll notice that it's from 2005, which would be back in the days of the old internet before it was common practice for writers to link directly to their sources (which often weren't online sources back then). You can be assured though that the study being referenced was very real.
Personally, I find that Cook's article contains many interesting thoughts about the history of the relationship between women and men, but fails to piece these disparate thoughts together in a coherent way that leads anywhere other than patronizing misogyny, I agree. It's one thing to suggest that women are, on average, smarter than men. It's entirely another to use this assertion as an asinine justification for female subservience. 'After all, with our great emotional intelligence, we can work around second-class citizenship!' Pff. Spoken exactly like someone who spent her whole life trying to do exactly that until her husband ditched her for his secretary. Oh wait.
Patriarchy is a losing game for women. Don't be dumb enough to play it.