Discussion The Goth Fetishes of MAGA Moids
Discussion The Goth Fetishes of MAGA Moids
Back when I was little, I saw the original Beetlejuice movie and The Addams Family Values and wanted to be like the characters Lydia and Wednesday from those respective movies. I found them mysterious, interesting, smart, and kind of scary. Kind of like how Halloween got started by the ancients wearing frightening masks to scare off evil spirits, one may similarly find that many scared people want to be scary. Such was it with me. A perception of danger repels many threats. That's how it all began for me. To use a fairly applicable cultural cliche, I like to consider myself a kind of goth geek. To that end, you won't be surprised to learn that YouTube often recommends me lots of gothic music and subculture type videos. This one by Demetri Falco I saw recently though I thought may be of particular interest around here:
(She calls herself a "basic goth". Clearly she ain't seen my qualitatively more reserved style. )
Like most goths, punks, emo peeps, and other assorted freakazoids, Demetri embraces a fairly individualistic worldview that is obviously not entirely mine. That said, I found her comments here worth sharing because she discusses, at some length, a pattern she's noticed of normie-ass men -- often of a politically conservative bent -- visiting gothic clubs to pick up women. She's got a lot of interesting theories as to why that is that I think are highly credible. In particular, I agree with her thinking that increasing volumes of porn addiction in society are playing a major role in this trend. She's definitely onto something when she points out the way goth women are portrayed in pornographic media. There's this reputation and image that the community has, and which porn content amplifies and turns into a cliche, that "alt girls" just looooooove being tied up and tortured and that just sounds like so much more fun than their unadventurous, Bible-thumping vanilla wives and girlfriends who impose conditions on them for sex. Fun for them anyway. Uuugh! There's waaaaaaay too much truth right there, seriously!
She also presents evidence to support cases of like certain men viewing the alt ladies as a challenge to conquer. Y'know, you look like you're neurotic and screwed up and must've had a bad childhood and he can fix you, this sort of mindset. Or there's always my personal theory too that some are just drawn to an aura of danger you may give off as like something else to tame and conquer. Anyway, since it's all a discussion of sexual objectification and dehumanization, thought it worth sharing. Of course, as a liberal, she has no solutions to this dilemma, at one point even stating plainly that, in her estimation, "we just have to ignore it". After all, we cannot get rid of porn or separate ourselves from men or, goddess forbid, have the guts to oppose consensual male violence on principle. When that is your stance, when solutions are 'prudish' and intolerant, of course you have no solutions, just complaints to air into the void of YouTube. One cannot act on the way they feel.
sighs Just because my musical range is from this to this doesn't mean I want to be whipped or set on fire. I guess it just goes to show once more that there is no repelling all threats. Fucking life in a moid's world!!
EDIT: I has now achieved 100 posts and am now much cooler!!!!
(I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Anti-Kink sub-forum, so if it's in the wrong place, sorry!)
Back when I was little, I saw the original Beetlejuice movie and The Addams Family Values and wanted to be like the characters Lydia and Wednesday from those respective movies. I found them mysterious, interesting, smart, and kind of scary. Kind of like how Halloween got started by the ancients wearing frightening masks to scare off evil spirits, one may similarly find that many scared people want to be scary. Such was it with me. A perception of danger repels many threats. That's how it all began for me. To use a fairly applicable cultural cliche, I like to consider myself a kind of goth geek. To that end, you won't be surprised to learn that YouTube often recommends me lots of gothic music and subculture type videos. This one by Demetri Falco I saw recently though I thought may be of particular interest around here:
(She calls herself a "basic goth". Clearly she ain't seen my qualitatively more reserved style. )
Like most goths, punks, emo peeps, and other assorted freakazoids, Demetri embraces a fairly individualistic worldview that is obviously not entirely mine. That said, I found her comments here worth sharing because she discusses, at some length, a pattern she's noticed of normie-ass men -- often of a politically conservative bent -- visiting gothic clubs to pick up women. She's got a lot of interesting theories as to why that is that I think are highly credible. In particular, I agree with her thinking that increasing volumes of porn addiction in society are playing a major role in this trend. She's definitely onto something when she points out the way goth women are portrayed in pornographic media. There's this reputation and image that the community has, and which porn content amplifies and turns into a cliche, that "alt girls" just looooooove being tied up and tortured and that just sounds like so much more fun than their unadventurous, Bible-thumping vanilla wives and girlfriends who impose conditions on them for sex. Fun for them anyway. Uuugh! There's waaaaaaay too much truth right there, seriously!
She also presents evidence to support cases of like certain men viewing the alt ladies as a challenge to conquer. Y'know, you look like you're neurotic and screwed up and must've had a bad childhood and he can fix you, this sort of mindset. Or there's always my personal theory too that some are just drawn to an aura of danger you may give off as like something else to tame and conquer. Anyway, since it's all a discussion of sexual objectification and dehumanization, thought it worth sharing. Of course, as a liberal, she has no solutions to this dilemma, at one point even stating plainly that, in her estimation, "we just have to ignore it". After all, we cannot get rid of porn or separate ourselves from men or, goddess forbid, have the guts to oppose consensual male violence on principle. When that is your stance, when solutions are 'prudish' and intolerant, of course you have no solutions, just complaints to air into the void of YouTube. One cannot act on the way they feel.
sighs Just because my musical range is from this to this doesn't mean I want to be whipped or set on fire. I guess it just goes to show once more that there is no repelling all threats. Fucking life in a moid's world!!
EDIT: I has now achieved 100 posts and am now much cooler!!!!
