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News Woman says security guard at Liberty Hotel in Boston confronted her in bathroom, asked to prove gender

News Woman says security guard at Liberty Hotel in Boston confronted her in bathroom, asked to prove gender

 
May 8 2025, 10:43 AM
#1
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/women-boston-liberty-hotel-bathroom-gender/

How is this making things safer for women? A man went into the restroom and terrorized a GNC woman. It wasn't a TIM who did this. It was a security guard who apparently thinks it's his job to transvestigate.
Elsacat
May 8 2025, 10:43 AM #1

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/women-boston-liberty-hotel-bathroom-gender/

How is this making things safer for women? A man went into the restroom and terrorized a GNC woman. It wasn't a TIM who did this. It was a security guard who apparently thinks it's his job to transvestigate.

Yesterday, 7:51 AM
#2
This happens to me occasionally and I don’t know how much it has to do with trans anything. I generally just say, “I’m female,” in my female voice and the confrontation is over. This happened before the trans craze and will continue o happen long after it’s finally dead.
OffMyTit
Yesterday, 7:51 AM #2

This happens to me occasionally and I don’t know how much it has to do with trans anything. I generally just say, “I’m female,” in my female voice and the confrontation is over. This happened before the trans craze and will continue o happen long after it’s finally dead.

Yesterday, 12:58 PM
#3
My experiences have been like OffMyTit's: I just say I'm female and that's it. I do get the impression that my presence sometimes makes women uncomfortable though and I'm not sure what to do about that.

I think this is an issue that will keep happening, especially as more men (either trans-identified or non-trans emboldened by the casual trans violation of female spaces) keep invading women's bathrooms and more TIFs keep taking steroids to make themselves resemble men. The question is what should be done about it. I suggested ID checks if necessary but that was deemed stressful and invasive. But I find going by nothing but superficial impressions, often reliant on the most superficial gender roles, to be even more problematic.
Edited Yesterday, 12:58 PM by YesYourNigel.
YesYourNigel
Yesterday, 12:58 PM #3

My experiences have been like OffMyTit's: I just say I'm female and that's it. I do get the impression that my presence sometimes makes women uncomfortable though and I'm not sure what to do about that.

I think this is an issue that will keep happening, especially as more men (either trans-identified or non-trans emboldened by the casual trans violation of female spaces) keep invading women's bathrooms and more TIFs keep taking steroids to make themselves resemble men. The question is what should be done about it. I suggested ID checks if necessary but that was deemed stressful and invasive. But I find going by nothing but superficial impressions, often reliant on the most superficial gender roles, to be even more problematic.

Yesterday, 6:46 PM
#4
I would absolutely be willing to show ID. I choose not to conform to femininity knowing it causes confusion for many, so I personally am always willing to clear things up. I do not consider it oppression for people to be confused about my sex, or even to be uncomfortable around me. I hate that trans ideology has made everyone blow temporarily mistaken identity out of proportion.
OffMyTit
Yesterday, 6:46 PM #4

I would absolutely be willing to show ID. I choose not to conform to femininity knowing it causes confusion for many, so I personally am always willing to clear things up. I do not consider it oppression for people to be confused about my sex, or even to be uncomfortable around me. I hate that trans ideology has made everyone blow temporarily mistaken identity out of proportion.

Yesterday, 10:55 PM
#5
My personal protocol in the women’s is to minimize time spent.  I don’t like smelling strangers’ shit. This would be the last place I’d be involved in a makeup routine or conversing with people or otherwise hanging around., and that’s mostly true of others. Anyone hanging around will be subject to snap judgments about why. And in this case, there was an allegation of a man with a woman in the same stall, which proved untrue, but again, why were they hanging around?
Edited Yesterday, 10:56 PM by Wrongtoy.
Wrongtoy
Yesterday, 10:55 PM #5

My personal protocol in the women’s is to minimize time spent.  I don’t like smelling strangers’ shit. This would be the last place I’d be involved in a makeup routine or conversing with people or otherwise hanging around., and that’s mostly true of others. Anyone hanging around will be subject to snap judgments about why. And in this case, there was an allegation of a man with a woman in the same stall, which proved untrue, but again, why were they hanging around?

5 hours ago
#6
Does it matter why they were hanging around? Chitchatting, making sure their clothes were adjusted, getting an extra tampon to carry, who knows. They were two women using the women's restroom and didn't deserve to be hassled.
Elsacat
5 hours ago #6

Does it matter why they were hanging around? Chitchatting, making sure their clothes were adjusted, getting an extra tampon to carry, who knows. They were two women using the women's restroom and didn't deserve to be hassled.

2 hours ago
#7
(5 hours ago)Elsacat Does it matter why they were hanging around? Chitchatting, making sure their clothes were adjusted, getting an extra tampon to carry, who knows. They were two women using the women's restroom and didn't deserve to be hassled.

Ok, so everyone has a right to hang around, but the longer one does so the more attention they get.
Wrongtoy
2 hours ago #7

(5 hours ago)Elsacat Does it matter why they were hanging around? Chitchatting, making sure their clothes were adjusted, getting an extra tampon to carry, who knows. They were two women using the women's restroom and didn't deserve to be hassled.

Ok, so everyone has a right to hang around, but the longer one does so the more attention they get.

komorebi
“I am not free while any woman is unfree, even when her shackles are very different from my own.” – Audre Lorde
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1 hour ago
#8
(Yesterday, 10:55 PM)Wrongtoy My personal protocol in the women’s is to minimize time spent.  I don’t like smelling strangers’ shit. This would be the last place I’d be involved in a makeup routine or conversing with people or otherwise hanging around., and that’s mostly true of others. Anyone hanging around will be subject to snap judgments about why. And in this case, there was an allegation of a man with a woman in the same stall, which proved untrue, but again, why were they hanging around?

What is this, the public restroom Gestapo? There are plenty of reasons why a woman might stick around in the restroom. Waiting for someone else, having stomach issues, doing their makeup, just needing a moment... I've had moments when something has really upset me and I've gone to the women's restroom to be alone and calm down. I can't believe you're justifying judging women over something stupid like this.
komorebi
“I am not free while any woman is unfree, even when her shackles are very different from my own.” – Audre Lorde
1 hour ago #8

(Yesterday, 10:55 PM)Wrongtoy My personal protocol in the women’s is to minimize time spent.  I don’t like smelling strangers’ shit. This would be the last place I’d be involved in a makeup routine or conversing with people or otherwise hanging around., and that’s mostly true of others. Anyone hanging around will be subject to snap judgments about why. And in this case, there was an allegation of a man with a woman in the same stall, which proved untrue, but again, why were they hanging around?

What is this, the public restroom Gestapo? There are plenty of reasons why a woman might stick around in the restroom. Waiting for someone else, having stomach issues, doing their makeup, just needing a moment... I've had moments when something has really upset me and I've gone to the women's restroom to be alone and calm down. I can't believe you're justifying judging women over something stupid like this.

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