<![CDATA[clovenhooves - Eastern Europe]]> https://clovenhooves.org/ Wed, 06 May 2026 13:29:38 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Bulgarian fund for women launches campaign in support of domestic violence victims]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1699 Tue, 18 Nov 2025 19:16:04 +0000 Magpie]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1699 https://azertag.az/en/xeber/bulgarian_fund_for_women_launches_campaign_in_support_of_domestic_violence_victims-3867115
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Quote:The initiative begins just days before the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women on November 25 and will continue until March 8, 2026. As part of “Care at Any Cost,” the fund is organizing an information and donation campaign, as well as a series of events aimed at raising public awareness and collecting funds for crisis centers that provide temporary shelter and assistance to victims.

The donation campaign will be open from November 17 to March 8, 2026, by texting DMS SILA to 17 777 or by donating through Platformata.bg.
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https://archive.ph/oAO1d

Quote:The initiative begins just days before the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women on November 25 and will continue until March 8, 2026. As part of “Care at Any Cost,” the fund is organizing an information and donation campaign, as well as a series of events aimed at raising public awareness and collecting funds for crisis centers that provide temporary shelter and assistance to victims.

The donation campaign will be open from November 17 to March 8, 2026, by texting DMS SILA to 17 777 or by donating through Platformata.bg.
]]> <![CDATA[Ovarit thread glorifying Eastern European misogyny]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=709 Thu, 13 Feb 2025 16:22:55 +0000 YesYourNigel]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=709 This is Eastern European edition, so expect it to rely on "Murrica dumb" and "Western values naive and stuck in lala land" on top of that. The comments talk about the double standard of women being called gold-diggers when they date rich men and one reply claims that women in Eastern European countries feel no shame in this.

Quote:Many Eastern European women I know seem to understand the transactional nature of this, and refuse to take the one sided shame for it
Women don't want to engage in this transaction, that's why they consume so much romance media where men do give a shit about them (including in Eastern Europe. Especially in Eastern Europe, hello soap operas) but they have to, because when your men are so overwhelmingly shit and feminist consciousness is so low, there is no other alternative you're given.

Quote:Do you know, whether their consciousness of the transactions leads to better arrangements for them?
Folx, is accepting that you have to marry for money feminism? 🤔

Hey, if the only measure of empowerment is whether the woman "owns" the horribly exploitative and harmful means of getting by, then we might as well add prostitution and transing out to the mix. Oh wait, that doesn't gel well with your Madonna-wh*re / Mother-Spinster complex.

ofc the other user replies "Definitely" because that serves the myth of those stupid Americans and Westerners being stupid and naive and if only they toughened up a little and stopped having their heads in the clouds, they'd realise that actually the traditional arrangements are to women's benefit or at the very least equal 🙄

Beauty standards and feminine gender roles for women are insane in Eastern Europe. Discrimination in jobs is seen as common sense. Rape culture and domestic violence are rampant. There isn't even an attempt to pretend women are equal for the sake of political correctness (unless it's time to try and make oneself seem more enlightened than stoopid westerners).

I certainly don't blame women for doing the best they can given the circumstances - your prospects for an independent life are intentionally limited and you're brainwashed all your life that you have to look like a supermodel to land a husband who will make actual money and, ofc, you need to focus on more important things like FaMiLy. And you're constantly treated by society as an unloveable troll if you refuse to play this game.

But there's a massive difference between women being forced to work within a patriarchal system, vs women being aware of and jealous of the progress that women have made in more developed countries and instead of recognising the blatant inequality, lying to themselves and other women and trying to lure them into their husbands' patriarchal ponzi scheme to make their lives of exploitation feel meaningful.

Accepting that your husband doesn't give a shit about you and that you're only a bangmaid to him, and then marrying him anyway because "Oh well, that's what men are like but I guess we love them anyway and I need to get food on the table somehow" is not empowerment for women. That's not women "getting theirs", that's women being pressured and forced so much by a patriarchal society into an obviously non-beneficial arrangement that's so normalised and so expected it doesn't even have to market itself as "totally equal", unlike in more feminist countries where men at least need to put in a modicum of work to scam women.]]> This is Eastern European edition, so expect it to rely on "Murrica dumb" and "Western values naive and stuck in lala land" on top of that. The comments talk about the double standard of women being called gold-diggers when they date rich men and one reply claims that women in Eastern European countries feel no shame in this.

Quote:Many Eastern European women I know seem to understand the transactional nature of this, and refuse to take the one sided shame for it
Women don't want to engage in this transaction, that's why they consume so much romance media where men do give a shit about them (including in Eastern Europe. Especially in Eastern Europe, hello soap operas) but they have to, because when your men are so overwhelmingly shit and feminist consciousness is so low, there is no other alternative you're given.

Quote:Do you know, whether their consciousness of the transactions leads to better arrangements for them?
Folx, is accepting that you have to marry for money feminism? 🤔

Hey, if the only measure of empowerment is whether the woman "owns" the horribly exploitative and harmful means of getting by, then we might as well add prostitution and transing out to the mix. Oh wait, that doesn't gel well with your Madonna-wh*re / Mother-Spinster complex.

ofc the other user replies "Definitely" because that serves the myth of those stupid Americans and Westerners being stupid and naive and if only they toughened up a little and stopped having their heads in the clouds, they'd realise that actually the traditional arrangements are to women's benefit or at the very least equal 🙄

Beauty standards and feminine gender roles for women are insane in Eastern Europe. Discrimination in jobs is seen as common sense. Rape culture and domestic violence are rampant. There isn't even an attempt to pretend women are equal for the sake of political correctness (unless it's time to try and make oneself seem more enlightened than stoopid westerners).

I certainly don't blame women for doing the best they can given the circumstances - your prospects for an independent life are intentionally limited and you're brainwashed all your life that you have to look like a supermodel to land a husband who will make actual money and, ofc, you need to focus on more important things like FaMiLy. And you're constantly treated by society as an unloveable troll if you refuse to play this game.

But there's a massive difference between women being forced to work within a patriarchal system, vs women being aware of and jealous of the progress that women have made in more developed countries and instead of recognising the blatant inequality, lying to themselves and other women and trying to lure them into their husbands' patriarchal ponzi scheme to make their lives of exploitation feel meaningful.

Accepting that your husband doesn't give a shit about you and that you're only a bangmaid to him, and then marrying him anyway because "Oh well, that's what men are like but I guess we love them anyway and I need to get food on the table somehow" is not empowerment for women. That's not women "getting theirs", that's women being pressured and forced so much by a patriarchal society into an obviously non-beneficial arrangement that's so normalised and so expected it doesn't even have to market itself as "totally equal", unlike in more feminist countries where men at least need to put in a modicum of work to scam women.]]> <![CDATA[Eastern Europe, Southern Europe]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=597 Thu, 30 Jan 2025 06:52:34 +0000 wormwood]]> https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=597
Our society is traditionally very patriarchal, with the sneaking matriolatry that is typical of such cultures. 

Women’s liberation as a movement started here in 1887. 

Women got the right to vote in 1952. Parliament and government are still overwhelmingly male, and almost every position of power is held by a man. 

Male violence against women is endemic everywhere, but here it is routinely excused by courts and public figures.

The country is institutionally Christian Orthodox, a rigidly patriarchal church, but one that has always been relaxed about divorce, contraception, and abortion.

This last is starting to change as US evangelical money enters the picture, and some politicians are associated with the emerging anti-abortion narrative.

There is a thriving fertility industry, including surrogacy.

Prostitution is legal.

Gender transition (without sterilising surgery) has been legal since 2017. As far as I know, medical intervention is not offered to minors. 

The church (which is entangled with the state) condemns homosexuality, and there is a strong anti-homosexual current in society, but lesbians and gay men have won some important struggles despite this and with the help of European Union rights law. Just last year, against much opposition, same sex marriage became legal.

It’s pretty difficult to disentangle women’s rights activism, homosexual rights activism, the cultural expression of gender non conformity, and trans ideology here from the broader left, which is tied up in party politics and anti-politics in ways I struggle to explain. 

Recent extreme cases of intimate partner violence, sex trafficking, and femicide have focused attention on women’s inequality, as especially have police cover-ups (more than one case has involved police or military officers).

This, my summary of the state of things in one European country, is posted so the category isn’t empty, and in the hope that I am not the only feminist here from my part of the world.

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Our society is traditionally very patriarchal, with the sneaking matriolatry that is typical of such cultures. 

Women’s liberation as a movement started here in 1887. 

Women got the right to vote in 1952. Parliament and government are still overwhelmingly male, and almost every position of power is held by a man. 

Male violence against women is endemic everywhere, but here it is routinely excused by courts and public figures.

The country is institutionally Christian Orthodox, a rigidly patriarchal church, but one that has always been relaxed about divorce, contraception, and abortion.

This last is starting to change as US evangelical money enters the picture, and some politicians are associated with the emerging anti-abortion narrative.

There is a thriving fertility industry, including surrogacy.

Prostitution is legal.

Gender transition (without sterilising surgery) has been legal since 2017. As far as I know, medical intervention is not offered to minors. 

The church (which is entangled with the state) condemns homosexuality, and there is a strong anti-homosexual current in society, but lesbians and gay men have won some important struggles despite this and with the help of European Union rights law. Just last year, against much opposition, same sex marriage became legal.

It’s pretty difficult to disentangle women’s rights activism, homosexual rights activism, the cultural expression of gender non conformity, and trans ideology here from the broader left, which is tied up in party politics and anti-politics in ways I struggle to explain. 

Recent extreme cases of intimate partner violence, sex trafficking, and femicide have focused attention on women’s inequality, as especially have police cover-ups (more than one case has involved police or military officers).

This, my summary of the state of things in one European country, is posted so the category isn’t empty, and in the hope that I am not the only feminist here from my part of the world.

(edited for typos)]]>