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			<title><![CDATA[A video where I discuss pro-war voices, including the use of ID poliitics and narratives around women's rights]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1941</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 19:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Call to action to Black women: Share your stories of misogynoir for The Misogynoir Online Project]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1816</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2025 19:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I recently found out about this website called The Online Misogynoir Project that seems like an awesome initiative to document and index the experiences of misogynoir on social media platforms that Black women have experienced (from males of all races and from other non-black women &amp; girls as well). <br />
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So I shared the info and link about this website on Vexxed, and I hope that other women of color and WOC allies will all take the time to check out this Vexxed post and perhaps leave a comment or some votes, if you can! ❤🙏❤🙏❤ <br />
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I really hope that more black women with Vexxed accounts feel encouraged to speak up more on Vexxed too, so I'm hoping that more of the rest of us who aren't black but who are allies to black women are able to take a moment to chime in some support and solidarity to black women &amp; girls by condemning misogynoir on that post and sticking up for why it's important for black women to be able to freely talk about and express their hurt, frustrations, and anger regarding their experiences of misogynoir, even when other women are perpetuating misogynoir without necessarily realizing it, and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">even if/when</span> it may hurt our feelings to be called out by black women for not being allies to them. There's a lot of truth in the frustrations expressed by black women online towards other women of color and towards white women especially, that are deserving of being considered by more of us with an open mind and open heart, if our goal is truly to achieve female solidarity amongst all women &amp; girls across race, skin color, nationality, ethnicity, religion, class, ability level, disabilities, age, and so on.<br />
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Here's the link to my post on Vexxed.org:  <br />
<a href="https://vexxed.org/o/TakingAction/7262/call-to-action-to-black-women-share-your-stories-of-misogynoir-for-the-misogynoi" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://vexxed.org/o/TakingAction/7262/call-to-action-to-black-women-share-your-stories-of-misogynoir-for-the-misogynoi</a> <br />
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Please consider taking the time to share the link to this Vexxed post on other forms of social media (reddit, discord, tumblr, twitter, Spinster, BlueSky, facebook, instagram, substack, tiktok, youtube, pinterest, and anywhere else where black women (and especially black women who are radfem-aligned) might end up being more likely to see this post and the info in it! Hopefully sharing that Vexxed post can lead to more black radfem women &amp; girls considering joining on Vexxed, even if it's just to downvote racism to start with. <br />
<br />
Let me know if any of you know any Black women who are wanting invite codes to join Vexxed! 🙏 I have some that I can share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I recently found out about this website called The Online Misogynoir Project that seems like an awesome initiative to document and index the experiences of misogynoir on social media platforms that Black women have experienced (from males of all races and from other non-black women &amp; girls as well). <br />
<br />
So I shared the info and link about this website on Vexxed, and I hope that other women of color and WOC allies will all take the time to check out this Vexxed post and perhaps leave a comment or some votes, if you can! ❤🙏❤🙏❤ <br />
<br />
I really hope that more black women with Vexxed accounts feel encouraged to speak up more on Vexxed too, so I'm hoping that more of the rest of us who aren't black but who are allies to black women are able to take a moment to chime in some support and solidarity to black women &amp; girls by condemning misogynoir on that post and sticking up for why it's important for black women to be able to freely talk about and express their hurt, frustrations, and anger regarding their experiences of misogynoir, even when other women are perpetuating misogynoir without necessarily realizing it, and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">even if/when</span> it may hurt our feelings to be called out by black women for not being allies to them. There's a lot of truth in the frustrations expressed by black women online towards other women of color and towards white women especially, that are deserving of being considered by more of us with an open mind and open heart, if our goal is truly to achieve female solidarity amongst all women &amp; girls across race, skin color, nationality, ethnicity, religion, class, ability level, disabilities, age, and so on.<br />
<br />
Here's the link to my post on Vexxed.org:  <br />
<a href="https://vexxed.org/o/TakingAction/7262/call-to-action-to-black-women-share-your-stories-of-misogynoir-for-the-misogynoi" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://vexxed.org/o/TakingAction/7262/call-to-action-to-black-women-share-your-stories-of-misogynoir-for-the-misogynoi</a> <br />
<br />
Please consider taking the time to share the link to this Vexxed post on other forms of social media (reddit, discord, tumblr, twitter, Spinster, BlueSky, facebook, instagram, substack, tiktok, youtube, pinterest, and anywhere else where black women (and especially black women who are radfem-aligned) might end up being more likely to see this post and the info in it! Hopefully sharing that Vexxed post can lead to more black radfem women &amp; girls considering joining on Vexxed, even if it's just to downvote racism to start with. <br />
<br />
Let me know if any of you know any Black women who are wanting invite codes to join Vexxed! 🙏 I have some that I can share.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Gaslighting about racism]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1791</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 08:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=413">dobby</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I hate the constant nonstop gaslighting there is towards women of color about undeniable instances of racism and being expected to explain step-by-step that if it's not acceptable to make generalizations about white people as a monolith that maybe it's also not reasonable or logical or fair to do the same about any other demographic, especially for the purposes of spreading hate towards them. <br />
<br />
I hate even more how I can't help but start to distrust other women in general at seeing so many women express such intense feral loathing and disdain for other demographics of women and apply racist generalizations in such shady ways. <br />
<br />
Honestly seeing how certain white women behave on "feminist" sites without being banned and seeing how enough other white women, white Jewish women, and women of other races, just go along with the racism without calling it out for the sake of having a safe space for them to vent and hate on other groups (they start out saying they only hate the men, but rarely push back when a few others redirect the hate towards other women; only a few regularly try and I'm grateful for them but feel bad that they only are burning themselves out too. — It shouldn't be controversial for mods/admins to just remove/warn the vaguely racist comments from the women who don't know better yet and to start scolding, temporary-banning/suspending, or permanently banning (even if it's just circle-wide bans), the site users who are repeatedly causing the same pattern of off-topic racist derailing without stopping or apologizing no matter if they identify as feminists or gender-critical or even if they are popular, well-liked/respected, or have other good posts, and it frustrates me that admins/mods don't seem to feel that way, and that even if the mods do see it, they seem to not have the power to make that judgment to enact circle-wide bans, so idk what the point of a "feminist" site for "all" women is when it's set up like that)... I actually can't even judge or blame some of the harsh-sounding women I've seen on Reddit, LipstickAlley and other spaces whose words I've felt hurt by when I've seen some make generalized statements (or use misogynistic slurs) expressing anger, dislike, hate, distrust, or animosity at all non-black women, or all white women, or all women from my (non-white) race for whatever reason, because it's hard to believe that female solidarity could ever be possible when there's always at least a few nasty hateful privileged women who try to use their privileges to  rile up and spread hate towards other oppressed groups of women. <br />
<br />
I had sometimes felt bad about some of the posts/comments with racism against my race I had seen on LipstickAlley sometimes by a small handful of women but every time I see on certain supposed feminist websites like Ovarit or Vexxed all the hate, resentment, scorn, loathing, and lack of understanding, sympathy, and empathy that so many white women and some of the prominent Jewish members seem to hold against Muslim women, Middle-Eastern women, Black women, South Asian women, etc... I just fully get why so many Black women specifically have expressed not trusting other non-Black women anymore because of how many times they've been burnt by that trust. And while I've only rarely seen any other demographics of women chatting online amongst each other about racism they've experienced from other groups from women, I'm sure that many of them have been similarly burned by women from all other races. And I just can't help but wonder sometimes what is the point of even trying to work towards any unity for women across nations and across races when our efforts keep getting derailed by the actions and hate of a few riling up so many others holding a lot of latent hate within themselves. I keep feeling constantly discouraged, and can't help but think that we're maybe all better off on our own, because any solidarity that women of color show towards each other or white women often won't get returned as much and will end up twisted somehow anyway and will drain our energy and make us feel resentful for it. <br />
<br />
But then I obviously stop and think about all rarer genuinely kind women of all races that I've come across, and I think to myself again that it's wrong to generalize and give up female solidarity as a lost cause just because of a few nasty racist women. But idk. It's just demoralizing to have to tip-toe around the oversensitive racist white women who cry 'racism' themselves and try to get you censored for pointing out their racism even when you've tried to be an ally to them, because the accusation of possibly being a racist is more upsetting to some white women than the consideration of them actually having taken part in alienating, marginalizing, and silencing other women of color with their choice of words having come off as "racist". It's always considered more important for any women of color to apologize for having hurt the feelings of any white women with the "racism" accusations, than for those white women who said or agreed with those racist statements to hear out and learn from why some women of color perceived them as racist in the first place <br />
<br />
I just feel like everything is pointless sometimes, and honestly having to chat "civilly" with racists who loathe me for my race just makes me feel worthless. It doesn't feel worth attempting to engage in "gender critical" or "radical feminist" or "feminist" spaces a lot of the time. I hate Islam because i hate how it hurts Muslim women, and ex-Muslim women, and the non-Muslim women who grow up around the religion. The racists hate Islam because they hate Muslims, including the women. No productive conversations can be held about Islam when everything is derailed into advocating for deporting colored women from the "civilized West" nonstop all the freaking time. <br />
<br />
I feel so gaslit on certain "feminist sites" — not this one, obviously.  I love Clovenhooves — when i point out racism from other women who fake being "feminist" yet only my comments get removed in a thread when other equally off-topic, derailing comments don't because of the bias that others hold. And i get told to stop vague-posting, and honestly I do get that... but if my own reports are ignored and if moderators really don't actually read and consider the other derailing comments in a thread as "derailing" or as verging towards racism, if not already having crossed that line... then I'm genuinely not sure how to explain it. And it makes me constantly question on whether I'm just going crazy and imagining the racism after after all, and then I end up feeling too demoralized and worthless to even bother pointing out racism and questioning if we deserve it. And tbh I think I'm just posting this rant honestly because on Vexxed, i keep feeling obligated to comment that "racism is bad", but my self-esteem is at the point that I'm questioning it again, and I guess I'm posting here just because I really would like to hear it from other actually feminist women here that "racism is bad" enough times so that maybe I can start to believe that again. <br />
<br />
I hate that engaging on a white-supremacist-leaning "feminist" site constantly brings me to question whether or not racism is bad or whether people like me specifically are deserving of racism. Since I obviously do know that other groups and races absolutely don't deserve racism, but I never actually end up hearing it about my race and I'm not sure if I'd believe it at this point even if someone said that, since the online consensus on Vexxed/Ovarit and LipstickAlley alike sometimes feels as if there is one race that does deserve all the hate. I suppose i am posting here for some reassurance that <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">all</span> racism is bad and isn't justified, even if I'm not capable of believing it yet. <br />
<br />
Funny how engaging on gender-critical spaces had been constantly making me feel this way about my race. It's even funnier how white-supremacists have successfully infiltrated GC spaces for so long without many "feminists" even realizing. <br />
<br />
And I'm just so frustrated tbh because the main reasons that I want so badly for a women-centered feminist/gender-critical radfem-run radfem-modded site for all women and girls to exist is because there's genuinely SO much potential for this idea to lead to all sorts of productive conversations and collaborations, and to lead to all sorts of connections both IRL and online, and to benefit women and girls all around the world socially, professionally, academically, mentally, emotionally, and so many other ways because women and girls would have a safe space not just for venting, supporting each other, spreading awareness of issues, and building solidarity, or asking for advice on life, relationships, family, careers, academics, etc, but also they can find likeminded women and girls to work on short-term and long-term projects with that benefit their local and global communities, and share resources and knowledge, and motivate &amp; encourage so many other girls and women who lurk that sort of feminist women-centered site. And I feel like I'd know how to recruit and build up each different "circle" and space for all sorts of different important/serioius and lighthearted/frivolous sorts of topics and help recruit, screen, and find the right kind of inclusive, sensitive female moderators for each circle (and enough of them) at a reasonable enough and efficient pace, and I literally have continued to offer to volunteer to do this for free without any long-term expectations and with me making it clear that I was willing to help for as long as I was needed and then step down and pass over any mod powers or whatever as soon as I was asked to, so it's not even like there would be much risk in trusting me if I'm too much of a random unknown person or not trusted enough to mod. But I literally just wanted an active, supportive, beneficial feminist women-centered site run by radfems to just exist, and I was willing to volunteer as much time, effort, and energy as it took to try to help build that sort of community, but it's hard to not question the goals of Vexxed as a site as it currently exists because it's obviously not set up in such a way that would be beneficial or productive for any of the women doing IRL activism work, advocacy work, outreach efforts to women &amp; girls, building up female professional networks and organizations to support women &amp; girls, etc. It's useless for anything anything productive to connect women and girls IRL or even online for their shares interests and hobbies, because there's too much hate that takes up so much space on that site spread by a small but loud minority of chronically online racist women who have no intentions of ever doing any actual productive IRL outreach, activism, advocacy, or charity work centered on women's liberation, but instead scare most women and girls away from the site with their hate and racism. When even so many white women on both the left and even the right are deterred from such a space by the racist vibes, when it's not just liberal women but also some conservative women including even religious Christian women I know who wouldn't feel comfortable joining, when even so many of the micro-aggressive mildly-racist women and girls I've known would probably say that the racism and hate on that site from a small handful of women goes wayyy too far... then it's not a useful site for most women and girls, but rather it's just a vehicle for spreading agendas, conspiracy theories, racism, and hate by white nationalists, conservatives, paranoid people, and anyone else (who might not even be female) who wants to influence groups of already angry women online who will be easily influenced and convinced over time by any agenda when they have the ability to post enough propaganda embedded into any post or comment that will just go unchallenged, and when they seem to be easily able to use AI generators like chatgpt or whatever else to help them post "reasonable" pseudo-intelligent-sounding nonsense essay rants that would be too exhausting for actual feminists on the site to be able to pick apart and critique at a fast enough pace that matches how frequently that sort of nonsense is posted. It feels all so frustrating that it's not noticable or obvious to admins or existing mods there. The funny thing to me also is how when I was trying to convince girl_undone that maybe there's still good ways to restart fresh with a new site that actually would carry out her initial feminist goals of a site for <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">all</span> women, she herself had brought up also the concern about bot accounts and AI bot users, and I had been so sure that this wouldn't be an issue with a new site tbh, because enough of us would surely be able to detect these patterns over time, but I had neglected to consider that she was actually so right, because it honestly does fully depend on the moderation and the ability of the admins and mods both (and the time they actually put in) to detect it, or listen to other member's vague-posting concerns, and to take action about bad-faith users early enough and to care enough to investigate it on their own without other site members having to present all the evidence and lie it all out tbh. I don't get how they don't notice or realize how suspicious some of the patterns from certain "popular" site regulars are, across so many posts. If any of them were open to reading those two propaganda articles shared here on Clovenhooves before, especially the article about the tactics of white-nationalists, idk if maybe reading those would end up helping some of them see what is happening on their site. I feel bad for some of the actually feminist mods there because I do sometimes get the impression that all of them maybe actually are feminists and that they do care, and that they maybe do notice to some extent that the site is too exhausting for most actual feminists to regularly engage on and that more conservative-leaning site members have been regularly taking over, but it's also on the admins at that point to also notice and care when so much of the problem of derailing and racism can be minimized and reduced heavily by taking care of like 3 to 10 of the most mean-spirited site regulars at most (and maybe like just letting them make their own pro-racism circle and quarantining them to there tbh).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I hate the constant nonstop gaslighting there is towards women of color about undeniable instances of racism and being expected to explain step-by-step that if it's not acceptable to make generalizations about white people as a monolith that maybe it's also not reasonable or logical or fair to do the same about any other demographic, especially for the purposes of spreading hate towards them. <br />
<br />
I hate even more how I can't help but start to distrust other women in general at seeing so many women express such intense feral loathing and disdain for other demographics of women and apply racist generalizations in such shady ways. <br />
<br />
Honestly seeing how certain white women behave on "feminist" sites without being banned and seeing how enough other white women, white Jewish women, and women of other races, just go along with the racism without calling it out for the sake of having a safe space for them to vent and hate on other groups (they start out saying they only hate the men, but rarely push back when a few others redirect the hate towards other women; only a few regularly try and I'm grateful for them but feel bad that they only are burning themselves out too. — It shouldn't be controversial for mods/admins to just remove/warn the vaguely racist comments from the women who don't know better yet and to start scolding, temporary-banning/suspending, or permanently banning (even if it's just circle-wide bans), the site users who are repeatedly causing the same pattern of off-topic racist derailing without stopping or apologizing no matter if they identify as feminists or gender-critical or even if they are popular, well-liked/respected, or have other good posts, and it frustrates me that admins/mods don't seem to feel that way, and that even if the mods do see it, they seem to not have the power to make that judgment to enact circle-wide bans, so idk what the point of a "feminist" site for "all" women is when it's set up like that)... I actually can't even judge or blame some of the harsh-sounding women I've seen on Reddit, LipstickAlley and other spaces whose words I've felt hurt by when I've seen some make generalized statements (or use misogynistic slurs) expressing anger, dislike, hate, distrust, or animosity at all non-black women, or all white women, or all women from my (non-white) race for whatever reason, because it's hard to believe that female solidarity could ever be possible when there's always at least a few nasty hateful privileged women who try to use their privileges to  rile up and spread hate towards other oppressed groups of women. <br />
<br />
I had sometimes felt bad about some of the posts/comments with racism against my race I had seen on LipstickAlley sometimes by a small handful of women but every time I see on certain supposed feminist websites like Ovarit or Vexxed all the hate, resentment, scorn, loathing, and lack of understanding, sympathy, and empathy that so many white women and some of the prominent Jewish members seem to hold against Muslim women, Middle-Eastern women, Black women, South Asian women, etc... I just fully get why so many Black women specifically have expressed not trusting other non-Black women anymore because of how many times they've been burnt by that trust. And while I've only rarely seen any other demographics of women chatting online amongst each other about racism they've experienced from other groups from women, I'm sure that many of them have been similarly burned by women from all other races. And I just can't help but wonder sometimes what is the point of even trying to work towards any unity for women across nations and across races when our efforts keep getting derailed by the actions and hate of a few riling up so many others holding a lot of latent hate within themselves. I keep feeling constantly discouraged, and can't help but think that we're maybe all better off on our own, because any solidarity that women of color show towards each other or white women often won't get returned as much and will end up twisted somehow anyway and will drain our energy and make us feel resentful for it. <br />
<br />
But then I obviously stop and think about all rarer genuinely kind women of all races that I've come across, and I think to myself again that it's wrong to generalize and give up female solidarity as a lost cause just because of a few nasty racist women. But idk. It's just demoralizing to have to tip-toe around the oversensitive racist white women who cry 'racism' themselves and try to get you censored for pointing out their racism even when you've tried to be an ally to them, because the accusation of possibly being a racist is more upsetting to some white women than the consideration of them actually having taken part in alienating, marginalizing, and silencing other women of color with their choice of words having come off as "racist". It's always considered more important for any women of color to apologize for having hurt the feelings of any white women with the "racism" accusations, than for those white women who said or agreed with those racist statements to hear out and learn from why some women of color perceived them as racist in the first place <br />
<br />
I just feel like everything is pointless sometimes, and honestly having to chat "civilly" with racists who loathe me for my race just makes me feel worthless. It doesn't feel worth attempting to engage in "gender critical" or "radical feminist" or "feminist" spaces a lot of the time. I hate Islam because i hate how it hurts Muslim women, and ex-Muslim women, and the non-Muslim women who grow up around the religion. The racists hate Islam because they hate Muslims, including the women. No productive conversations can be held about Islam when everything is derailed into advocating for deporting colored women from the "civilized West" nonstop all the freaking time. <br />
<br />
I feel so gaslit on certain "feminist sites" — not this one, obviously.  I love Clovenhooves — when i point out racism from other women who fake being "feminist" yet only my comments get removed in a thread when other equally off-topic, derailing comments don't because of the bias that others hold. And i get told to stop vague-posting, and honestly I do get that... but if my own reports are ignored and if moderators really don't actually read and consider the other derailing comments in a thread as "derailing" or as verging towards racism, if not already having crossed that line... then I'm genuinely not sure how to explain it. And it makes me constantly question on whether I'm just going crazy and imagining the racism after after all, and then I end up feeling too demoralized and worthless to even bother pointing out racism and questioning if we deserve it. And tbh I think I'm just posting this rant honestly because on Vexxed, i keep feeling obligated to comment that "racism is bad", but my self-esteem is at the point that I'm questioning it again, and I guess I'm posting here just because I really would like to hear it from other actually feminist women here that "racism is bad" enough times so that maybe I can start to believe that again. <br />
<br />
I hate that engaging on a white-supremacist-leaning "feminist" site constantly brings me to question whether or not racism is bad or whether people like me specifically are deserving of racism. Since I obviously do know that other groups and races absolutely don't deserve racism, but I never actually end up hearing it about my race and I'm not sure if I'd believe it at this point even if someone said that, since the online consensus on Vexxed/Ovarit and LipstickAlley alike sometimes feels as if there is one race that does deserve all the hate. I suppose i am posting here for some reassurance that <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">all</span> racism is bad and isn't justified, even if I'm not capable of believing it yet. <br />
<br />
Funny how engaging on gender-critical spaces had been constantly making me feel this way about my race. It's even funnier how white-supremacists have successfully infiltrated GC spaces for so long without many "feminists" even realizing. <br />
<br />
And I'm just so frustrated tbh because the main reasons that I want so badly for a women-centered feminist/gender-critical radfem-run radfem-modded site for all women and girls to exist is because there's genuinely SO much potential for this idea to lead to all sorts of productive conversations and collaborations, and to lead to all sorts of connections both IRL and online, and to benefit women and girls all around the world socially, professionally, academically, mentally, emotionally, and so many other ways because women and girls would have a safe space not just for venting, supporting each other, spreading awareness of issues, and building solidarity, or asking for advice on life, relationships, family, careers, academics, etc, but also they can find likeminded women and girls to work on short-term and long-term projects with that benefit their local and global communities, and share resources and knowledge, and motivate &amp; encourage so many other girls and women who lurk that sort of feminist women-centered site. And I feel like I'd know how to recruit and build up each different "circle" and space for all sorts of different important/serioius and lighthearted/frivolous sorts of topics and help recruit, screen, and find the right kind of inclusive, sensitive female moderators for each circle (and enough of them) at a reasonable enough and efficient pace, and I literally have continued to offer to volunteer to do this for free without any long-term expectations and with me making it clear that I was willing to help for as long as I was needed and then step down and pass over any mod powers or whatever as soon as I was asked to, so it's not even like there would be much risk in trusting me if I'm too much of a random unknown person or not trusted enough to mod. But I literally just wanted an active, supportive, beneficial feminist women-centered site run by radfems to just exist, and I was willing to volunteer as much time, effort, and energy as it took to try to help build that sort of community, but it's hard to not question the goals of Vexxed as a site as it currently exists because it's obviously not set up in such a way that would be beneficial or productive for any of the women doing IRL activism work, advocacy work, outreach efforts to women &amp; girls, building up female professional networks and organizations to support women &amp; girls, etc. It's useless for anything anything productive to connect women and girls IRL or even online for their shares interests and hobbies, because there's too much hate that takes up so much space on that site spread by a small but loud minority of chronically online racist women who have no intentions of ever doing any actual productive IRL outreach, activism, advocacy, or charity work centered on women's liberation, but instead scare most women and girls away from the site with their hate and racism. When even so many white women on both the left and even the right are deterred from such a space by the racist vibes, when it's not just liberal women but also some conservative women including even religious Christian women I know who wouldn't feel comfortable joining, when even so many of the micro-aggressive mildly-racist women and girls I've known would probably say that the racism and hate on that site from a small handful of women goes wayyy too far... then it's not a useful site for most women and girls, but rather it's just a vehicle for spreading agendas, conspiracy theories, racism, and hate by white nationalists, conservatives, paranoid people, and anyone else (who might not even be female) who wants to influence groups of already angry women online who will be easily influenced and convinced over time by any agenda when they have the ability to post enough propaganda embedded into any post or comment that will just go unchallenged, and when they seem to be easily able to use AI generators like chatgpt or whatever else to help them post "reasonable" pseudo-intelligent-sounding nonsense essay rants that would be too exhausting for actual feminists on the site to be able to pick apart and critique at a fast enough pace that matches how frequently that sort of nonsense is posted. It feels all so frustrating that it's not noticable or obvious to admins or existing mods there. The funny thing to me also is how when I was trying to convince girl_undone that maybe there's still good ways to restart fresh with a new site that actually would carry out her initial feminist goals of a site for <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">all</span> women, she herself had brought up also the concern about bot accounts and AI bot users, and I had been so sure that this wouldn't be an issue with a new site tbh, because enough of us would surely be able to detect these patterns over time, but I had neglected to consider that she was actually so right, because it honestly does fully depend on the moderation and the ability of the admins and mods both (and the time they actually put in) to detect it, or listen to other member's vague-posting concerns, and to take action about bad-faith users early enough and to care enough to investigate it on their own without other site members having to present all the evidence and lie it all out tbh. I don't get how they don't notice or realize how suspicious some of the patterns from certain "popular" site regulars are, across so many posts. If any of them were open to reading those two propaganda articles shared here on Clovenhooves before, especially the article about the tactics of white-nationalists, idk if maybe reading those would end up helping some of them see what is happening on their site. I feel bad for some of the actually feminist mods there because I do sometimes get the impression that all of them maybe actually are feminists and that they do care, and that they maybe do notice to some extent that the site is too exhausting for most actual feminists to regularly engage on and that more conservative-leaning site members have been regularly taking over, but it's also on the admins at that point to also notice and care when so much of the problem of derailing and racism can be minimized and reduced heavily by taking care of like 3 to 10 of the most mean-spirited site regulars at most (and maybe like just letting them make their own pro-racism circle and quarantining them to there tbh).]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Delayed care to 2 Black pregnant women highlights maternal health disparities]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1742</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 02:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=6">Clover</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[AP News, December 3 2025<br />
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<a href="https://apnews.com/article/black-women-maternal-mortality-inequality-ac14c2ac360b71cb6ddf75cadd9f03b4" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://apnews.com/article/black-women-maternal-mortality-inequality-ac14c2ac360b71cb6ddf75cadd9f03b4</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Two pregnant Black women nearly 1,000 miles apart were ready to do what many do every day: welcome new bundles of joy, and just before the start of the holiday season. Instead, the health of both women and their babies was put at risk after hospital staff did not immediately provide the needed care.<br />
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One woman was discharged and delivered her baby on the side of an Indiana highway, while the other nearly gave birth in a Texas hospital’s emergency waiting room. Both women survived, but are still reeling from ordeals that have drawn national attention — in part, because they were captured on video and shared on social media.<br />
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Each instance highlights the long-standing and rising disparities in health outcomes for Black women, who die at a rate nearly 3.5 times higher than white women around the time of childbirth, according to a 2023 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report.<br />
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While maternal mortality rates for white, Hispanic and Asian women fell in 2023, according to the CDC report, the rate for Black women barely budged.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1pdaain/delayed_care_to_2_black_pregnant_women_highlights/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Found on r/WomensInNews.</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[AP News, December 3 2025<br />
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<a href="https://apnews.com/article/black-women-maternal-mortality-inequality-ac14c2ac360b71cb6ddf75cadd9f03b4" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://apnews.com/article/black-women-maternal-mortality-inequality-ac14c2ac360b71cb6ddf75cadd9f03b4</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Two pregnant Black women nearly 1,000 miles apart were ready to do what many do every day: welcome new bundles of joy, and just before the start of the holiday season. Instead, the health of both women and their babies was put at risk after hospital staff did not immediately provide the needed care.<br />
<br />
One woman was discharged and delivered her baby on the side of an Indiana highway, while the other nearly gave birth in a Texas hospital’s emergency waiting room. Both women survived, but are still reeling from ordeals that have drawn national attention — in part, because they were captured on video and shared on social media.<br />
<br />
Each instance highlights the long-standing and rising disparities in health outcomes for Black women, who die at a rate nearly 3.5 times higher than white women around the time of childbirth, according to a 2023 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report.<br />
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While maternal mortality rates for white, Hispanic and Asian women fell in 2023, according to the CDC report, the rate for Black women barely budged.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1pdaain/delayed_care_to_2_black_pregnant_women_highlights/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Found on r/WomensInNews.</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Mistreatment of Black mother in active labor in Dallas]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1693</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2025 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=172">eyeswideopen</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm going to link to this video in which a Black woman in active labor is being ignored by a nurse who apparently thinks getting through the hospital check-in process is more important than administering to the mother and baby about to be born (the infant was born 12 minutes after this video was taken). The Black obgyn who is commenting does a great job explaining why what this nurse did was so wrong and linking the nurse's neglect to the way Black women have worse outcomes than other racial groups in the U.S.<br />
It's pretty traumatic to watch (both mother and baby survive), but it's important to see I believe. I'm so glad the person accompanying the mom recorded this because I'm sure that without video evidence she would be dismissed as overreacting if she files a complaint (which I hope she does)<br />
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMw9WbeA/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMw9WbeA/</a><br />
Link will open in a web browser if you don't have the tiktok app.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I'm going to link to this video in which a Black woman in active labor is being ignored by a nurse who apparently thinks getting through the hospital check-in process is more important than administering to the mother and baby about to be born (the infant was born 12 minutes after this video was taken). The Black obgyn who is commenting does a great job explaining why what this nurse did was so wrong and linking the nurse's neglect to the way Black women have worse outcomes than other racial groups in the U.S.<br />
It's pretty traumatic to watch (both mother and baby survive), but it's important to see I believe. I'm so glad the person accompanying the mom recorded this because I'm sure that without video evidence she would be dismissed as overreacting if she files a complaint (which I hope she does)<br />
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMw9WbeA/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMw9WbeA/</a><br />
Link will open in a web browser if you don't have the tiktok app.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Empowering Women of Colour: The Legacy of the Organisation of Women of African and Asian Descent (OWAAD)]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1628</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 05:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=6">Clover</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Black History Month Magazine, March 30 2023<br />
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<a href="https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/civil-rights-movement/empowering-women-of-colour-the-legacy-of-the-organisation-of-women-of-african-and-asian-descent-owaad/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/civil-rights-movement/empowering-women-of-colour-the-legacy-of-the-organisation-of-women-of-african-and-asian-descent-owaad/</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The Organisation of Women of African and Asian Descent (OWAAD) was a pioneering feminist group that emerged in the UK in the late 1970s. Founded by a group of black and Asian women who felt that their experiences were not adequately represented in the mainstream feminist movement, OWAAD sought to empower women of colour and challenge the intersecting systems of oppression they faced due to their race, gender, and class. The group placed a strong emphasis on activism, community organising, and political education, and was involved in a number of campaigns and initiatives aimed at improving the lives of women of colour in the UK.<br />
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[...]<br />
<br />
One of the key issues OWAAD addressed was the intersection of race and gender. The group argued that racism and sexism were intertwined and that women of colour faced a “double burden” of oppression that was not adequately recognised by the mainstream feminist movement. OWAAD produced a number of influential publications, including the book “Heart of the Race: Black Women’s Lives in Britain” (1985), which documented the experiences of black women in the UK. The group was also involved in the publication of the journal “Sisterhood” and the anthology “Charting the Journey: Writings by Black and Third World Women” (1988).</blockquote>
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Found via the thread about <a href="https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1609" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Olive Morris</a>.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Black History Month Magazine, March 30 2023<br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/civil-rights-movement/empowering-women-of-colour-the-legacy-of-the-organisation-of-women-of-african-and-asian-descent-owaad/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/civil-rights-movement/empowering-women-of-colour-the-legacy-of-the-organisation-of-women-of-african-and-asian-descent-owaad/</a><br />
<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The Organisation of Women of African and Asian Descent (OWAAD) was a pioneering feminist group that emerged in the UK in the late 1970s. Founded by a group of black and Asian women who felt that their experiences were not adequately represented in the mainstream feminist movement, OWAAD sought to empower women of colour and challenge the intersecting systems of oppression they faced due to their race, gender, and class. The group placed a strong emphasis on activism, community organising, and political education, and was involved in a number of campaigns and initiatives aimed at improving the lives of women of colour in the UK.<br />
<br />
[...]<br />
<br />
One of the key issues OWAAD addressed was the intersection of race and gender. The group argued that racism and sexism were intertwined and that women of colour faced a “double burden” of oppression that was not adequately recognised by the mainstream feminist movement. OWAAD produced a number of influential publications, including the book “Heart of the Race: Black Women’s Lives in Britain” (1985), which documented the experiences of black women in the UK. The group was also involved in the publication of the journal “Sisterhood” and the anthology “Charting the Journey: Writings by Black and Third World Women” (1988).</blockquote>
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Found via the thread about <a href="https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1609" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Olive Morris</a>.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[‘It was amazing to find sisters’: Brixton Black Women’s Group on their revolutionary newsletter]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1627</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 05:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=6">Clover</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[The Guardian, October 24 2023<br />
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<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/24/speak-out-brixton-black-womens-group" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/24/speak-out-brixton-black-womens-group</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Fifty years ago, a group of women who were part of the British Black Panther movement were fed up with being ignored. In male-dominated discussions there was a distinct lack of interest in women’s issues, and hierarchical structures meant some members felt they did not have a voice.<br />
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“We had a women’s caucus,” but it “was not universally popular with the Panthers”, recalls retired academic Beverley Bryan. “Why are these women getting together?” some of the men would ask.<br />
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So Bryan and her friends founded the Brixton Black Women’s Group (BBWG), which set out to campaign and raise awareness of the issues affecting women of colour across the UK.</blockquote>
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Speak Out!: The Brixton Black Women's Group by Brixton Black Women's Group: <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/3034-speak-out" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.versobooks.com/products/3034-speak-out</a><br />
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<hr class="mycode_hr" />
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Found from <a href="https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1609" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">the thread about Olive Morris.</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The Guardian, October 24 2023<br />
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<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/24/speak-out-brixton-black-womens-group" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/oct/24/speak-out-brixton-black-womens-group</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Fifty years ago, a group of women who were part of the British Black Panther movement were fed up with being ignored. In male-dominated discussions there was a distinct lack of interest in women’s issues, and hierarchical structures meant some members felt they did not have a voice.<br />
<br />
“We had a women’s caucus,” but it “was not universally popular with the Panthers”, recalls retired academic Beverley Bryan. “Why are these women getting together?” some of the men would ask.<br />
<br />
So Bryan and her friends founded the Brixton Black Women’s Group (BBWG), which set out to campaign and raise awareness of the issues affecting women of colour across the UK.</blockquote>
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Speak Out!: The Brixton Black Women's Group by Brixton Black Women's Group: <a href="https://www.versobooks.com/products/3034-speak-out" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.versobooks.com/products/3034-speak-out</a><br />
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Found from <a href="https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1609" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">the thread about Olive Morris.</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Has there ever been a real discussion with the liberals on our viewpoint?]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1444</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2025 08:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=392">Zola</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone, I'm sure you're aware how we on the radfem and left side are usually ignored. Liberals want to reduce radical feminism to just gender critical branch of thought and then group that with the right wingers. okay, whatever.<br />
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    But there's an additional layer to it when they say things like "past racial segregation and current gender segregation are the same" that are, in my opinion, more maicious than just a symptom of being chronically online. I thin they are actively being ideological agents of right wing people. Our racial struggle has become secondary to the gender ideology, as in sentences of "sexual, gender, and racial minorities" you'll see liberals sprinkle around. Or the fact that our SKIN COLOUR is put on the flag of the LGBTQ+ as an aside. As if we are in the same category. As if you can minimise and reduce our generational struggle to this. <br />
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    I feel like they speak in our name. If you look at liberal feminsim 10 years ago, they were usually debating right wingers on whether or not muslims are human beings, and the right would threaten them with male violence. That the solution to that was to continue funding war AND sending them back to it. Doesn't this discussion feel like it is missing... us? I remember back then the emphasis that these white women on the liberal side had on voicing other people, even if in gesture, which is lacking today. It seems that liberals are more and more agents of the right wing and enemies to the global working class than before, or at least more apparently. Because even back then, they empathised with racial minorities in a really creepy way sometimes, such as focusing on male sexual criminals, or deeply psychologically stressed male refugees. Nothing about the women, or why the path was dangerous to them, or why the systems of the west hurt them, was ever discussed. They wanted to portray racial minorities in distress - muslim refugees in this example - as some form of accessory to their moral upstanding. They pick the boogeyman to the right wingers not because they "wanted to humanise muslims in the public eye", because deep down they know that is rediculous, but because they wanted to shift the struggle of racial minorities from a battle against western supremacy, the laws that revent them from living a dignified life, and forcing refugees to be dependent, to an individualistic one: a battle against the right wingers, because their personal disgust for their neighbour is the only thing causing harm to them. Have we ever been consulted, asked, given legal representation in the grand scheme of the past 20 years (as non-white minorities in general)? It seems to me like our skin colour can only be publicised if we are sterile of our community, if we represent white thought, for example. <br />
<br />
   I've recently stumbled upon a black american communist man doing video essays. Sadly, he would paint both racial and gender identities with the same brush. As if we fully adopt and have to coddle men who call us "ugly, manly compared to white women". I've NEVER seen a debate in which someone who is both of colour and radical feminist ever get platformed, and I've personally been threatened within my fair share of debates, online or real. Liberals threatened me with violence, and with the prospect of losing them and being lumped away with the right wingers. <br />
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    Just some food for thought. Any discussion, personal stories, or opinions would be greatly appreciated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello everyone, I'm sure you're aware how we on the radfem and left side are usually ignored. Liberals want to reduce radical feminism to just gender critical branch of thought and then group that with the right wingers. okay, whatever.<br />
 <br />
    But there's an additional layer to it when they say things like "past racial segregation and current gender segregation are the same" that are, in my opinion, more maicious than just a symptom of being chronically online. I thin they are actively being ideological agents of right wing people. Our racial struggle has become secondary to the gender ideology, as in sentences of "sexual, gender, and racial minorities" you'll see liberals sprinkle around. Or the fact that our SKIN COLOUR is put on the flag of the LGBTQ+ as an aside. As if we are in the same category. As if you can minimise and reduce our generational struggle to this. <br />
<br />
    I feel like they speak in our name. If you look at liberal feminsim 10 years ago, they were usually debating right wingers on whether or not muslims are human beings, and the right would threaten them with male violence. That the solution to that was to continue funding war AND sending them back to it. Doesn't this discussion feel like it is missing... us? I remember back then the emphasis that these white women on the liberal side had on voicing other people, even if in gesture, which is lacking today. It seems that liberals are more and more agents of the right wing and enemies to the global working class than before, or at least more apparently. Because even back then, they empathised with racial minorities in a really creepy way sometimes, such as focusing on male sexual criminals, or deeply psychologically stressed male refugees. Nothing about the women, or why the path was dangerous to them, or why the systems of the west hurt them, was ever discussed. They wanted to portray racial minorities in distress - muslim refugees in this example - as some form of accessory to their moral upstanding. They pick the boogeyman to the right wingers not because they "wanted to humanise muslims in the public eye", because deep down they know that is rediculous, but because they wanted to shift the struggle of racial minorities from a battle against western supremacy, the laws that revent them from living a dignified life, and forcing refugees to be dependent, to an individualistic one: a battle against the right wingers, because their personal disgust for their neighbour is the only thing causing harm to them. Have we ever been consulted, asked, given legal representation in the grand scheme of the past 20 years (as non-white minorities in general)? It seems to me like our skin colour can only be publicised if we are sterile of our community, if we represent white thought, for example. <br />
<br />
   I've recently stumbled upon a black american communist man doing video essays. Sadly, he would paint both racial and gender identities with the same brush. As if we fully adopt and have to coddle men who call us "ugly, manly compared to white women". I've NEVER seen a debate in which someone who is both of colour and radical feminist ever get platformed, and I've personally been threatened within my fair share of debates, online or real. Liberals threatened me with violence, and with the prospect of losing them and being lumped away with the right wingers. <br />
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    Just some food for thought. Any discussion, personal stories, or opinions would be greatly appreciated.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Dismissed by DEI: Trump’s Purge Made Black Women With Stable Federal Jobs an “Easy Target”]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1252</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2025 00:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=147">Elsacat</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dei-black-women-minorities-careers-jobs-dismissed" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dei-black-women-minorities-careers-jobs-dismissed</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>“We have observed approximately 90% of the workers targeted for terminations due to a perceived association with diversity, equity and inclusion efforts are women or nonbinary,” said Kelly Dermody, one of the plaintiffs’ attorneys, who have asked an administrative law judge to approve class-action status for the fired employees.<br />
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Nearly 80% of potential case plaintiffs are nonwhite, she said; most of that cohort are Black women.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dei-black-women-minorities-careers-jobs-dismissed" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dei-black-women-minorities-careers-jobs-dismissed</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>“We have observed approximately 90% of the workers targeted for terminations due to a perceived association with diversity, equity and inclusion efforts are women or nonbinary,” said Kelly Dermody, one of the plaintiffs’ attorneys, who have asked an administrative law judge to approve class-action status for the fired employees.<br />
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Nearly 80% of potential case plaintiffs are nonwhite, she said; most of that cohort are Black women.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Not This Time: Black women are sitting out this round of Trump protests. I can explain why.]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=1154</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 04:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=6">Clover</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Slate, May 6 2025<br />
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<a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/why-black-women-arent-protesting-trump-this-time.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/why-black-women-arent-protesting-trump-this-time.html</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Over the past few months, millions of people across the country have poured into the streets to protest the Trump administration, thanks to the organizing efforts of groups like Hands Off and 50501. Sometimes they focus on specific government policies targeting immigrants, tariffs, trans people, and DOGE cuts, but they’re broadly all pro-democracy demonstrations that started with the “People’s March” before Trump’s second inauguration in January.<br />
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In previous years, I would have been right there with them, but not this time around. Instead, I smile and wave at the protesters, sometimes raising a fist in solidarity, then I carry on with my day. When I read about them—or the administration’s plummeting approval ratings—I feel strangely unmoved.</blockquote>
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The 92 Percent Movement is about Black women taking time for ourselves even during this political crisis, or maybe especially during it. Some have wondered why more Black people aren’t showing at this iteration of anti-Trump rallies. Well, we’re taking a breather, or maybe we’re just sitting this one out altogether. It seems like an inopportune time to be a political wallflower, but it’s not so easy to bounce back from what happened on Nov. 5. We’ve turned inward, drawing support from other Black women, reminding each other of our worth and protecting our mental health. It’s still true what Malcolm X said about Black women being the most disrespected and unprotected in America, so we look out for each other. That’s what Michelle Obama did when she decided to skip Trump’s inauguration and even Jimmy Carter’s funeral, where she would have been seated next to Trump. Nope, not doing it this time.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1khviri/not_this_timeblack_women_are_sitting_out_this/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Discussion on r/WomenInNews </a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Slate, May 6 2025<br />
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<a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/why-black-women-arent-protesting-trump-this-time.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/why-black-women-arent-protesting-trump-this-time.html</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Over the past few months, millions of people across the country have poured into the streets to protest the Trump administration, thanks to the organizing efforts of groups like Hands Off and 50501. Sometimes they focus on specific government policies targeting immigrants, tariffs, trans people, and DOGE cuts, but they’re broadly all pro-democracy demonstrations that started with the “People’s March” before Trump’s second inauguration in January.<br />
<br />
In previous years, I would have been right there with them, but not this time around. Instead, I smile and wave at the protesters, sometimes raising a fist in solidarity, then I carry on with my day. When I read about them—or the administration’s plummeting approval ratings—I feel strangely unmoved.</blockquote>
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The 92 Percent Movement is about Black women taking time for ourselves even during this political crisis, or maybe especially during it. Some have wondered why more Black people aren’t showing at this iteration of anti-Trump rallies. Well, we’re taking a breather, or maybe we’re just sitting this one out altogether. It seems like an inopportune time to be a political wallflower, but it’s not so easy to bounce back from what happened on Nov. 5. We’ve turned inward, drawing support from other Black women, reminding each other of our worth and protecting our mental health. It’s still true what Malcolm X said about Black women being the most disrespected and unprotected in America, so we look out for each other. That’s what Michelle Obama did when she decided to skip Trump’s inauguration and even Jimmy Carter’s funeral, where she would have been seated next to Trump. Nope, not doing it this time.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://reddit.com/r/WomenInNews/comments/1khviri/not_this_timeblack_women_are_sitting_out_this/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Discussion on r/WomenInNews </a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Overlooked No More: Maria W. Stewart, Trailblazing Voice for Black Women]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=773</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2025 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<a href="https://archive.ph/lY1GE" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://archive.ph/lY1GE</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Stewart was a 28-year-old former indentured servant. In her manuscript, a political manifesto, she recounted her upbringing and described the conditions for Black women in an oppressive America. She also argued for equal opportunity for Black Americans, and she did something no Black woman had done before: speak directly and publicly to other women, urging them to educate themselves, “to promote and patronize each other” and, even more, “to sue for your rights and privileges.” </blockquote>
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<a href="https://archive.ph/lY1GE" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://archive.ph/lY1GE</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Stewart was a 28-year-old former indentured servant. In her manuscript, a political manifesto, she recounted her upbringing and described the conditions for Black women in an oppressive America. She also argued for equal opportunity for Black Americans, and she did something no Black woman had done before: speak directly and publicly to other women, urging them to educate themselves, “to promote and patronize each other” and, even more, “to sue for your rights and privileges.” </blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Token: The melanin chronicles.]]></title>
			<link>https://clovenhooves.org/showthread.php?tid=470</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2024 23:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://clovenhooves.org/member.php?action=profile&uid=152">GalacticTurtle</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Original article can be read <a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/token" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">HERE</a>. <br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TOKEN: THE MELANIN CHRONICLES. </span><br />
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“How many other black kids were there?” my mother asked my older sister after her first practice with the community youth orchestra. She sighed and rolled her eyes.<br />
<br />
“I don’t know.”<br />
<br />
“Were there <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">any</span> other black kids?” she probed further. At this, my sister blew up. <br />
<br />
“You do know that nobody pays attention to that kind of thing, right? Nobody cares except you,” she said, pointing a finger at both of our parents. “It’s honestly really racist!” <br />
<br />
An argument ensued that I can’t recall the details of twenty years after the fact, but I do remember my father saying something along the lines of, “<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">You</span> might not think about it, but the world around you does.” <br />
<br />
At that point in our lives, my sister and I really didn’t know much about the world around us. Our window to it was just our family unit of four with the tiny TV in the kitchen playing the evening local news. At the top of each new crime report, my father would say, “<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Please</span> don’t let it be a brother,” like a prayer before a mugshot of a disheveled black man would be flashed up on the screen. With a collective sigh, we would continue eating our food. <br />
<br />
My school and athletic life were largely white. My home and church life were exclusively black. My sister and I were in an upper middle class family who had traded out the inner city life closer to relatives for the suburban life closer to the private school that would set the pace for our entire existence. And unlike my parents who grew up in an extremely segregated southern environment, my sister and I had not known a time where the color of our skin would ever be mentioned or acknowledged except during those instances around the dinner table. Like my sister, going to a new place and counting the number of black people around me was simply never something that would occur to me to do. For my parents, it was an automatic survival reflex like looking both ways before crossing the street. <br />
<br />
People who knew my sister first would never guess that I was, in fact, her sister. And the people who knew <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">me</span> first would never guess that my sister was, in fact, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">my sister</span>. Katherine is what, by the 2010s, many kids would call “basic.” She has a loud voice she always pitched higher whenever she’d bippity-bop around school with Abercrombie sweatpants under her uniform skirt, is a Uggs and Starbucks pumpkin spice latte loyalist, and had posters of the Backstreet Boys and Leonardo Dicaprio all over her bedroom walls that she later swapped out for inspirational wood-carved in cursive quotes from Etsy. She joined a white sorority, got a few dainty tattoos of things like birds, constellations, and music notes, and took the array of sexy Halloween options available at the store as a personal challenge. She’s what my mother calls a “young soul” even now in her mid-thirties living peacefully in a recently constructed apartment complex on the nice side of the river with her wine collection, pet cat, yoga gear, and paint by numbers sets. <br />
<br />
Katherine has her crowd. She’d called home from college in tears after barely two weeks because the other black women there were calling her an Oreo (black on the outside, white on the inside), and loudly announced over dinner much later in the timeline that she wasn’t interested in dating black men. Full stop. The spirit of my mother’s melanin drained from her face in horror. <br />
<br />
I travel in a larger circuit. Despite being a nerd with a “plain Jane” presentation (something familiar to all shades of people), I’ve been told I’m good company. Preppy white country clubs, hip-hop nightclubs, fundraisers at the blackest of churches, networking parties at five-star hotels, game nights at the local pizza joint, the depths and heights of New York City, the comfortable quiet of the Georgia countryside, weddings, funerals, senior citizen activity days, chaperoning for children, chaperoning for intoxicated adults, study groups, any brand of committee, Bernie Bros, Trumpers, in charge of everything, or walking into a wacky situation totally blind. You name it, I can probably roll with it. For a decent amount of work environments I’ve been in, the primary language wasn’t even English… and I only speak English. My mother says I am the “master code switcher.” <br />
<br />
I think I’m very consistent in my presentation and am just good at picking up on a mood. Everyone quickly learns what I’m about. But I do sugarcoat or, quite the opposite, say honest things so bluntly people think I’m joking. And while I do love collapsing into bed for a nice quiet night at home like my sister, I’d be the first to open the door for female friends, family, or coworkers needing a place to crash for a day or a whole year. Every roommate I’ve ever had has told me that I’m the best roommate they’ve ever had. No one enters Katherine’s place except for cat sitters and the various white men in uniform she grabs from Tinder. Katherine still disagrees with what our father told us twenty years ago feeling like her blackness is exceedingly inconsequential behind fancy degrees and designer accessories. I’ve experienced what he was talking about and adjusted accordingly, but also scratch my head at many conversations surrounding race that have defined the present round of the Roaring Twenties. However, despite how my sister and I may differ, one thing remains true. In our lives, more often than not, we are the token. I alluded to this a little bit in <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/lucky" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Lucky</span></a></span>. <br />
<br />
While in school, I was never big on class participation. But not raising your hand would never save you from being called on. Our desks weren’t in rows either. They were in a circle. Some classrooms didn’t have desks at all. We’d just be seated around some giant antique wooden table discussing Jane Austen. Small class sizes were a school selling point. That’s why it was always such a large and obvious contrast any year we had a unit on slavery or any of the related struggles that followed in the United States. Suddenly in our circle arrangements, everyone tried their hardest not to look at me while the teacher was talking. And coincidentally, I’d never be called on without my hand raised to offer an answer or a thought. <br />
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In a humorous precursor to what we see today, my sophomore year of high school saw the introduction of Multicultural Day. In preparation, we were handed sheets on which we were to write our names and check off one of the following boxes: White, Black, Hispanic/Asian/Pacific Islander/Other, Jewish, or Gay. Yes, you read that correctly. <br />
<br />
A few days later, a sign was posted by the school entrance with instructions on where in the school to go (the boys high school was also involved in this exercise which meant the hallways were getting set to become a bit crowded). It said all the black students should go to the girls' library. The white groups, of which there were sixteen, all had separate room assignments. All the weird (white) art girls… I mean… “the gays”… piled into the art room. And yes, it was just girls. All the in between shades of brown, a group of maybe five, went off… somewhere. And the Jewish students which included my two closest friends, had the main auditorium until they were asked to relocate to the hallway because the white groups needed more space. <br />
<br />
Our black party in the library started off quite chill. The other girls and I were primarily amused by the whole situation but the boys began painting a much different picture of their school than ours. It turns out that in the hierarchy of boys, jabs targeted race, age, wealth, height, and neighborhood. Inside the school halls was a no-combat zone, but outside these factions were one error in judgment away from becoming gangs. The rest of the girls and I stayed quiet save for the ones who voiced anger on behalf of the black boys in our brother school. And it’s those same girls who took charge in writing down their complaints and demands that we’d show the school in the form of a presentation held later in the day, organizing the generalized frustration.<br />
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We filed back into the auditorium with all these other groups who had been divided (mostly) by race to talk about each other all day. We went back to sitting side by side in awkward silence. Part of me wondered what the other girls said. A larger part of me wondered what the other boys said. Soft pretzels were handed out and the boys went back to their side of the street. Within a couple of days, the girls had moved on. It was at this point when I first began to associate race conflict with something stemming from something that was distinctly male. <br />
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The student resource center was housed in one of the biggest buildings on my college campus. Upon walking inside you’d be faced with a tall and wide staircase opening up to lounges and cafes. It was at the bottom of that staircase when from high above, I heard someone shout, “HEY YOU, BLACK GIRL!” on my first day. I stopped, looked around me at all the white people, then looked above to see a black woman waving directly at me and beckoning me closer. <br />
<br />
She described herself as being on the hunt to find all the black freshmen to make sure they joined the Black Student Union. And since she’d never seen me before, she assumed I was a newbie of some designation. She said there would be an <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">off the chain</span> mixer the following week that I absolutely could not miss. It really hadn’t occurred to me at that point that there would be a club for black students. Clubs based on race or ethnicity didn’t exist in my high school. But when I told my parents, they were overjoyed saying how great it would be for career networking.<br />
<br />
At the mixer, I gravitated toward a group of relaxed looking women who welcomed me to their table. They were all upperclassmen. We got to talking about music at which point I said my favorite band was Linkin Park. One of them put her hand on the table as if meaning to calm me and said, “That’s <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">amazing</span>. Be <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">proud</span> of it. Liking Linkin Park <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">doesn’t make you any less black</span>.” I put on my default smile and the conversation continued. On the inside, I wondered how the hell listening to Linkin Park would impact the color of my skin. But then I recalled my sister’s Oreo saga.  <br />
<br />
That first BSU event was not the only time music came up. For those of you who may not know, rap music is often debated within black circles. Is it good for the community? Bad for the community? A product of the reality of the community? A self-fulfilling prophecy for the community? Should we really be calling each other nigger all the time? If we’re calling ourselves that all the time in our own music that is now widely popular around the world, should we really be surprised when other races do the same? Anything from the gangsta rap era onward was explicitly banned in my house growing up as was MTV which my father described as the “people behaving badly” channel. He also called all the women on it “floozies” which I always figured was an old-timey word for “sl*t” which, in hindsight, was a very inappropriate thing for him to call my sister whenever she’d prepare to leave the house in spaghetti straps or anything emulating Britney Spears. <br />
<br />
Later in that year, a survey would be sent asking for female respondents. It contained questions that essentially boiled down to what degree the way we styled our hair was a political statement. This was all going on during the growing resurrection of the “natural hair movement.” That is, letting your hair grow from your scalp without getting a perm or a weave or straightening it with heat for it to behave more like the average white person’s hair in an attempt to look more “appropriate.” At the time, I got my hair straightened with heat every couple of weeks and would later keep it completely natural before shaving it all off. Why the changes? Money and time, both of which were chronically in short supply. I still rock a shaved head and, personally, I think it’s the best look for me particularly as someone who was always terrible at taking care of their hair. I feel like I could write a whole other essay <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">just on hair.</span> <br />
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[Update: Read <a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/ladies-hair" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Ladies Hair - The XX Curl Pattern</span></a>]<br />
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Overall, my time attending BSU meetings mainly highlighted two things: <br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>The insecurities of black women trying to pull off this balancing act between <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">our</span> culture and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">their</span> culture which included quite a juicy clash between the Black Student Union, African Student Union, and Carribean Student Union that culminated in a combined mixer with spectacular catering so… totally worth it. <br />
</li>
<li>The unbreakable connection between the concept of race unity and this expectation that black men had an almost righteous claim over the bodies and fates of black women that should be both encouraged and celebrated. <br />
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I am going to dig a lot further into that second point… at a later time. But let me get back to tokenism.<br />
<br />
I wouldn’t call myself a perfectionist, but I will say that I’m quite prideful and it is damaging to my sense of pride if my work isn’t notably spectacular. So when I got my first job at a dingey literally underground nightclub that was in all likelihood financed by the Turkish mob, I was determined to be the best coat check person they’d ever seen. That quickly evolved to being the best ticket taker they’d ever seen, merch seller they’d ever seen, and all around door person they’d ever seen. <br />
<br />
By the time I was twenty, I was the go to person for any party of significance. The sold out ones where the booze would be flying off the shelves and the “big boss” would be coming in with his crew dressed to the nines and handing out hundred dollar bills to staff like they were mints before secluding themselves in the back room for “private business.” And aside from the bouncers headed by this guy - Daniel - tall and built like a football player, always packing heat, and would routinely talk my ear off about philosophy at 2am, I was the only black employee. The rest were fresh off the boat Eastern Europeans who had a tendency to be conventionally attractive. <br />
<br />
But I always knew I’d be put on the frontlines when it was going to be a black party. Not only would I work the door, but I’d be asked to greet the artist, get them situated, and even settle their end of show finances which on one occasion involved the actual flipping of a table sending big bills flying everywhere. Luckily working at this place was an extreme exercise in conflict resolution. An invaluable skill. <br />
<br />
My first tour ever was with a hip-hop artist who happened to be Korean and a few days before it started my boss called me to ask what I had packed to wear. Black polo shirts, black denim jeans, black sweatshirts. But apparently, this was not acceptable. “You’ll be getting photographed at airports next to these artists,” she began to explain. “And they’re used to their entourage looking a certain way. So I’m going to need to ask you if you can look more <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">hip-hop</span>. Fashion streetwear. Maybe change your hair.” It made me think back to my freshmen year roommate from China who was obsessed with the Madea movies and told me she was surprised I was so different from what those movies had made her expect of a black woman. It reminded me of a white woman I had worked with quite extensively on a Japanese concert series who opened up to me saying that I’m great to work with, so competent, smart, and articulate, so unlike the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">other blacks</span>. <br />
<br />
And that became the motif of my career: The gentle bigotry of low expectations. This knowledge that, for whatever reason, there would be an <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">us</span> and a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">them</span>, spoken or unspoken, the admission at the end of every project that in being twice as good as everyone else, they no longer needed to have any concerns about me operating in their space. Anything less and my chances of getting called back for more would be uncertain. Many times, I’d be called in late to fix the mess someone who fit the bill of a typical hire with connections to the inner circle made. And yes, there were probably other factors at play. I was black, I was a woman, and I looked so young that police patrol units unfamiliar with me would stop me outside the clubs where I worked and inquire about my age. But by the time I was done with almost anything, everyone would be happy and I’d continue on my way. I found my work highly fulfilling, but it was nonetheless a path of solitude that was not a component of my school days growing up. Did I just not sense the wall back then in my female bubble? Was I only imagining it now actively navigating a male world? <br />
<br />
I couldn’t tell you why the George Floyd murder in particular set off the white people around me so much. I’d stumbled across a Black Lives Matter protest a few years before in Manhattan when I was on the verge of running late for work (late in my book means less than fifteen minutes early) and actually got stopped and searched there by cops who took my jogging with a backpack to be an imminent bomb threat. Former classmates took to social media to describe how they were in shock, horrified, and reduced to tears for days after watching this video (a video I never actually watched and found the repeat watchings spoken about by others to be very odd). It was what I’d expect if the old ladies in church caught the spirit of the devil during a sermon instead of the spirit of god. I was familiar with the concept of white guilt (the aversion of eyes when speaking about slavery in school) and for a while assumed this Shakespeare-length death monologue of a performance carried out by many a person all over social media was spurred on by the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC. A big part of me still thinks it was. Maybe for younger people, it was as genuine as the religious fervor in which they assert that there is such thing as a female penis. But for me, these “on the down low” tokenism tropes took center stage and became lauded as progress. <br />
<br />
“Usually it is common when meeting someone to ask them where they are from,” the professor began on my first day of grad school in the fall of 2021. COVID had shut down my entire industry so I figured I may as well make the most of it. “But because for some students their ancestors did not come to this land by choice, let us ask each other where our <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">spirit </span>comes from.” I was the only person in the class who was not white. A stack of copies of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">How To Be An Antiracist</span> by Ibram X. Kendi were stacked by the professor’s side. This was supposed to be a theater curriculum. That semester, there was hardly a week that went by where my blackness was not brought up by other students or faculty members. They wanted my perspective. They wanted to hear about my suffering. In my mind, they wanted to experience straight from the mouth of the oppressed the gut twisting zing they probably got from watching videos of black men getting killed by cops. <br />
<br />
At home, I expressed to my parents how angry this social dynamic was making me. Their general confusion at the current state of affairs was similar to mine. The George Floyd incident they described as “terrible but not surprising.” My father described his white coworkers as people who “just figured out that the sky is blue.” The evening local news still put up mugshots of disheveled black men on a daily basis. My parents and grandparents still criticized <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">the culture</span> for leading so many black men astray, for making black neighborhoods that had always been poor but clean and relatively safe into neighborhoods the police wouldn’t even show up in because they knew they’d be outgunned. <br />
<br />
In regards to the police, I was raised to keep my distance. I’d say the goal was for me to never have a reason to interact with them at all. And if I ever did, I was to speak with them with the utmost clarity and respect and pray nothing went sideways. I’ve interacted with law enforcement officers who were on power trips and went along with whatever temporary humiliation they decided on that day. It just seems logical that because most of them were men with guns and a license to kill in a world where unhinged things happen daily, you’d handle those interactions with some level of caution no matter the color of your skin. Relying on men to protect you from other men is always a hazardous game to play. And men going up against each other, more often than not, just like those boys way back in high school,  seem like they have something they’d like to prove. <br />
<br />
I do not know how I’d like to end this piece. It will be followed up with pieces on related topics that were touched on above. I suppose I’ll end by saying that I have learned to count the number of black people in a room and I’m not sure how I should feel about that.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Original article can be read <a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/token" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">HERE</a>. <br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">TOKEN: THE MELANIN CHRONICLES. </span><br />
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“How many other black kids were there?” my mother asked my older sister after her first practice with the community youth orchestra. She sighed and rolled her eyes.<br />
<br />
“I don’t know.”<br />
<br />
“Were there <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">any</span> other black kids?” she probed further. At this, my sister blew up. <br />
<br />
“You do know that nobody pays attention to that kind of thing, right? Nobody cares except you,” she said, pointing a finger at both of our parents. “It’s honestly really racist!” <br />
<br />
An argument ensued that I can’t recall the details of twenty years after the fact, but I do remember my father saying something along the lines of, “<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">You</span> might not think about it, but the world around you does.” <br />
<br />
At that point in our lives, my sister and I really didn’t know much about the world around us. Our window to it was just our family unit of four with the tiny TV in the kitchen playing the evening local news. At the top of each new crime report, my father would say, “<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Please</span> don’t let it be a brother,” like a prayer before a mugshot of a disheveled black man would be flashed up on the screen. With a collective sigh, we would continue eating our food. <br />
<br />
My school and athletic life were largely white. My home and church life were exclusively black. My sister and I were in an upper middle class family who had traded out the inner city life closer to relatives for the suburban life closer to the private school that would set the pace for our entire existence. And unlike my parents who grew up in an extremely segregated southern environment, my sister and I had not known a time where the color of our skin would ever be mentioned or acknowledged except during those instances around the dinner table. Like my sister, going to a new place and counting the number of black people around me was simply never something that would occur to me to do. For my parents, it was an automatic survival reflex like looking both ways before crossing the street. <br />
<br />
People who knew my sister first would never guess that I was, in fact, her sister. And the people who knew <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">me</span> first would never guess that my sister was, in fact, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">my sister</span>. Katherine is what, by the 2010s, many kids would call “basic.” She has a loud voice she always pitched higher whenever she’d bippity-bop around school with Abercrombie sweatpants under her uniform skirt, is a Uggs and Starbucks pumpkin spice latte loyalist, and had posters of the Backstreet Boys and Leonardo Dicaprio all over her bedroom walls that she later swapped out for inspirational wood-carved in cursive quotes from Etsy. She joined a white sorority, got a few dainty tattoos of things like birds, constellations, and music notes, and took the array of sexy Halloween options available at the store as a personal challenge. She’s what my mother calls a “young soul” even now in her mid-thirties living peacefully in a recently constructed apartment complex on the nice side of the river with her wine collection, pet cat, yoga gear, and paint by numbers sets. <br />
<br />
Katherine has her crowd. She’d called home from college in tears after barely two weeks because the other black women there were calling her an Oreo (black on the outside, white on the inside), and loudly announced over dinner much later in the timeline that she wasn’t interested in dating black men. Full stop. The spirit of my mother’s melanin drained from her face in horror. <br />
<br />
I travel in a larger circuit. Despite being a nerd with a “plain Jane” presentation (something familiar to all shades of people), I’ve been told I’m good company. Preppy white country clubs, hip-hop nightclubs, fundraisers at the blackest of churches, networking parties at five-star hotels, game nights at the local pizza joint, the depths and heights of New York City, the comfortable quiet of the Georgia countryside, weddings, funerals, senior citizen activity days, chaperoning for children, chaperoning for intoxicated adults, study groups, any brand of committee, Bernie Bros, Trumpers, in charge of everything, or walking into a wacky situation totally blind. You name it, I can probably roll with it. For a decent amount of work environments I’ve been in, the primary language wasn’t even English… and I only speak English. My mother says I am the “master code switcher.” <br />
<br />
I think I’m very consistent in my presentation and am just good at picking up on a mood. Everyone quickly learns what I’m about. But I do sugarcoat or, quite the opposite, say honest things so bluntly people think I’m joking. And while I do love collapsing into bed for a nice quiet night at home like my sister, I’d be the first to open the door for female friends, family, or coworkers needing a place to crash for a day or a whole year. Every roommate I’ve ever had has told me that I’m the best roommate they’ve ever had. No one enters Katherine’s place except for cat sitters and the various white men in uniform she grabs from Tinder. Katherine still disagrees with what our father told us twenty years ago feeling like her blackness is exceedingly inconsequential behind fancy degrees and designer accessories. I’ve experienced what he was talking about and adjusted accordingly, but also scratch my head at many conversations surrounding race that have defined the present round of the Roaring Twenties. However, despite how my sister and I may differ, one thing remains true. In our lives, more often than not, we are the token. I alluded to this a little bit in <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/lucky" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Lucky</span></a></span>. <br />
<br />
While in school, I was never big on class participation. But not raising your hand would never save you from being called on. Our desks weren’t in rows either. They were in a circle. Some classrooms didn’t have desks at all. We’d just be seated around some giant antique wooden table discussing Jane Austen. Small class sizes were a school selling point. That’s why it was always such a large and obvious contrast any year we had a unit on slavery or any of the related struggles that followed in the United States. Suddenly in our circle arrangements, everyone tried their hardest not to look at me while the teacher was talking. And coincidentally, I’d never be called on without my hand raised to offer an answer or a thought. <br />
<br />
In a humorous precursor to what we see today, my sophomore year of high school saw the introduction of Multicultural Day. In preparation, we were handed sheets on which we were to write our names and check off one of the following boxes: White, Black, Hispanic/Asian/Pacific Islander/Other, Jewish, or Gay. Yes, you read that correctly. <br />
<br />
A few days later, a sign was posted by the school entrance with instructions on where in the school to go (the boys high school was also involved in this exercise which meant the hallways were getting set to become a bit crowded). It said all the black students should go to the girls' library. The white groups, of which there were sixteen, all had separate room assignments. All the weird (white) art girls… I mean… “the gays”… piled into the art room. And yes, it was just girls. All the in between shades of brown, a group of maybe five, went off… somewhere. And the Jewish students which included my two closest friends, had the main auditorium until they were asked to relocate to the hallway because the white groups needed more space. <br />
<br />
Our black party in the library started off quite chill. The other girls and I were primarily amused by the whole situation but the boys began painting a much different picture of their school than ours. It turns out that in the hierarchy of boys, jabs targeted race, age, wealth, height, and neighborhood. Inside the school halls was a no-combat zone, but outside these factions were one error in judgment away from becoming gangs. The rest of the girls and I stayed quiet save for the ones who voiced anger on behalf of the black boys in our brother school. And it’s those same girls who took charge in writing down their complaints and demands that we’d show the school in the form of a presentation held later in the day, organizing the generalized frustration.<br />
<br />
We filed back into the auditorium with all these other groups who had been divided (mostly) by race to talk about each other all day. We went back to sitting side by side in awkward silence. Part of me wondered what the other girls said. A larger part of me wondered what the other boys said. Soft pretzels were handed out and the boys went back to their side of the street. Within a couple of days, the girls had moved on. It was at this point when I first began to associate race conflict with something stemming from something that was distinctly male. <br />
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The student resource center was housed in one of the biggest buildings on my college campus. Upon walking inside you’d be faced with a tall and wide staircase opening up to lounges and cafes. It was at the bottom of that staircase when from high above, I heard someone shout, “HEY YOU, BLACK GIRL!” on my first day. I stopped, looked around me at all the white people, then looked above to see a black woman waving directly at me and beckoning me closer. <br />
<br />
She described herself as being on the hunt to find all the black freshmen to make sure they joined the Black Student Union. And since she’d never seen me before, she assumed I was a newbie of some designation. She said there would be an <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">off the chain</span> mixer the following week that I absolutely could not miss. It really hadn’t occurred to me at that point that there would be a club for black students. Clubs based on race or ethnicity didn’t exist in my high school. But when I told my parents, they were overjoyed saying how great it would be for career networking.<br />
<br />
At the mixer, I gravitated toward a group of relaxed looking women who welcomed me to their table. They were all upperclassmen. We got to talking about music at which point I said my favorite band was Linkin Park. One of them put her hand on the table as if meaning to calm me and said, “That’s <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">amazing</span>. Be <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">proud</span> of it. Liking Linkin Park <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">doesn’t make you any less black</span>.” I put on my default smile and the conversation continued. On the inside, I wondered how the hell listening to Linkin Park would impact the color of my skin. But then I recalled my sister’s Oreo saga.  <br />
<br />
That first BSU event was not the only time music came up. For those of you who may not know, rap music is often debated within black circles. Is it good for the community? Bad for the community? A product of the reality of the community? A self-fulfilling prophecy for the community? Should we really be calling each other nigger all the time? If we’re calling ourselves that all the time in our own music that is now widely popular around the world, should we really be surprised when other races do the same? Anything from the gangsta rap era onward was explicitly banned in my house growing up as was MTV which my father described as the “people behaving badly” channel. He also called all the women on it “floozies” which I always figured was an old-timey word for “sl*t” which, in hindsight, was a very inappropriate thing for him to call my sister whenever she’d prepare to leave the house in spaghetti straps or anything emulating Britney Spears. <br />
<br />
Later in that year, a survey would be sent asking for female respondents. It contained questions that essentially boiled down to what degree the way we styled our hair was a political statement. This was all going on during the growing resurrection of the “natural hair movement.” That is, letting your hair grow from your scalp without getting a perm or a weave or straightening it with heat for it to behave more like the average white person’s hair in an attempt to look more “appropriate.” At the time, I got my hair straightened with heat every couple of weeks and would later keep it completely natural before shaving it all off. Why the changes? Money and time, both of which were chronically in short supply. I still rock a shaved head and, personally, I think it’s the best look for me particularly as someone who was always terrible at taking care of their hair. I feel like I could write a whole other essay <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">just on hair.</span> <br />
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[Update: Read <a href="https://galacticturtle.substack.com/p/ladies-hair" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u">Ladies Hair - The XX Curl Pattern</span></a>]<br />
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Overall, my time attending BSU meetings mainly highlighted two things: <br />
<ol type="1" class="mycode_list"><li>The insecurities of black women trying to pull off this balancing act between <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">our</span> culture and <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">their</span> culture which included quite a juicy clash between the Black Student Union, African Student Union, and Carribean Student Union that culminated in a combined mixer with spectacular catering so… totally worth it. <br />
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<li>The unbreakable connection between the concept of race unity and this expectation that black men had an almost righteous claim over the bodies and fates of black women that should be both encouraged and celebrated. <br />
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I am going to dig a lot further into that second point… at a later time. But let me get back to tokenism.<br />
<br />
I wouldn’t call myself a perfectionist, but I will say that I’m quite prideful and it is damaging to my sense of pride if my work isn’t notably spectacular. So when I got my first job at a dingey literally underground nightclub that was in all likelihood financed by the Turkish mob, I was determined to be the best coat check person they’d ever seen. That quickly evolved to being the best ticket taker they’d ever seen, merch seller they’d ever seen, and all around door person they’d ever seen. <br />
<br />
By the time I was twenty, I was the go to person for any party of significance. The sold out ones where the booze would be flying off the shelves and the “big boss” would be coming in with his crew dressed to the nines and handing out hundred dollar bills to staff like they were mints before secluding themselves in the back room for “private business.” And aside from the bouncers headed by this guy - Daniel - tall and built like a football player, always packing heat, and would routinely talk my ear off about philosophy at 2am, I was the only black employee. The rest were fresh off the boat Eastern Europeans who had a tendency to be conventionally attractive. <br />
<br />
But I always knew I’d be put on the frontlines when it was going to be a black party. Not only would I work the door, but I’d be asked to greet the artist, get them situated, and even settle their end of show finances which on one occasion involved the actual flipping of a table sending big bills flying everywhere. Luckily working at this place was an extreme exercise in conflict resolution. An invaluable skill. <br />
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My first tour ever was with a hip-hop artist who happened to be Korean and a few days before it started my boss called me to ask what I had packed to wear. Black polo shirts, black denim jeans, black sweatshirts. But apparently, this was not acceptable. “You’ll be getting photographed at airports next to these artists,” she began to explain. “And they’re used to their entourage looking a certain way. So I’m going to need to ask you if you can look more <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">hip-hop</span>. Fashion streetwear. Maybe change your hair.” It made me think back to my freshmen year roommate from China who was obsessed with the Madea movies and told me she was surprised I was so different from what those movies had made her expect of a black woman. It reminded me of a white woman I had worked with quite extensively on a Japanese concert series who opened up to me saying that I’m great to work with, so competent, smart, and articulate, so unlike the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">other blacks</span>. <br />
<br />
And that became the motif of my career: The gentle bigotry of low expectations. This knowledge that, for whatever reason, there would be an <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">us</span> and a <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">them</span>, spoken or unspoken, the admission at the end of every project that in being twice as good as everyone else, they no longer needed to have any concerns about me operating in their space. Anything less and my chances of getting called back for more would be uncertain. Many times, I’d be called in late to fix the mess someone who fit the bill of a typical hire with connections to the inner circle made. And yes, there were probably other factors at play. I was black, I was a woman, and I looked so young that police patrol units unfamiliar with me would stop me outside the clubs where I worked and inquire about my age. But by the time I was done with almost anything, everyone would be happy and I’d continue on my way. I found my work highly fulfilling, but it was nonetheless a path of solitude that was not a component of my school days growing up. Did I just not sense the wall back then in my female bubble? Was I only imagining it now actively navigating a male world? <br />
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I couldn’t tell you why the George Floyd murder in particular set off the white people around me so much. I’d stumbled across a Black Lives Matter protest a few years before in Manhattan when I was on the verge of running late for work (late in my book means less than fifteen minutes early) and actually got stopped and searched there by cops who took my jogging with a backpack to be an imminent bomb threat. Former classmates took to social media to describe how they were in shock, horrified, and reduced to tears for days after watching this video (a video I never actually watched and found the repeat watchings spoken about by others to be very odd). It was what I’d expect if the old ladies in church caught the spirit of the devil during a sermon instead of the spirit of god. I was familiar with the concept of white guilt (the aversion of eyes when speaking about slavery in school) and for a while assumed this Shakespeare-length death monologue of a performance carried out by many a person all over social media was spurred on by the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC. A big part of me still thinks it was. Maybe for younger people, it was as genuine as the religious fervor in which they assert that there is such thing as a female penis. But for me, these “on the down low” tokenism tropes took center stage and became lauded as progress. <br />
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“Usually it is common when meeting someone to ask them where they are from,” the professor began on my first day of grad school in the fall of 2021. COVID had shut down my entire industry so I figured I may as well make the most of it. “But because for some students their ancestors did not come to this land by choice, let us ask each other where our <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">spirit </span>comes from.” I was the only person in the class who was not white. A stack of copies of <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">How To Be An Antiracist</span> by Ibram X. Kendi were stacked by the professor’s side. This was supposed to be a theater curriculum. That semester, there was hardly a week that went by where my blackness was not brought up by other students or faculty members. They wanted my perspective. They wanted to hear about my suffering. In my mind, they wanted to experience straight from the mouth of the oppressed the gut twisting zing they probably got from watching videos of black men getting killed by cops. <br />
<br />
At home, I expressed to my parents how angry this social dynamic was making me. Their general confusion at the current state of affairs was similar to mine. The George Floyd incident they described as “terrible but not surprising.” My father described his white coworkers as people who “just figured out that the sky is blue.” The evening local news still put up mugshots of disheveled black men on a daily basis. My parents and grandparents still criticized <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">the culture</span> for leading so many black men astray, for making black neighborhoods that had always been poor but clean and relatively safe into neighborhoods the police wouldn’t even show up in because they knew they’d be outgunned. <br />
<br />
In regards to the police, I was raised to keep my distance. I’d say the goal was for me to never have a reason to interact with them at all. And if I ever did, I was to speak with them with the utmost clarity and respect and pray nothing went sideways. I’ve interacted with law enforcement officers who were on power trips and went along with whatever temporary humiliation they decided on that day. It just seems logical that because most of them were men with guns and a license to kill in a world where unhinged things happen daily, you’d handle those interactions with some level of caution no matter the color of your skin. Relying on men to protect you from other men is always a hazardous game to play. And men going up against each other, more often than not, just like those boys way back in high school,  seem like they have something they’d like to prove. <br />
<br />
I do not know how I’d like to end this piece. It will be followed up with pieces on related topics that were touched on above. I suppose I’ll end by saying that I have learned to count the number of black people in a room and I’m not sure how I should feel about that.</blockquote>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2024 17:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Medium, LesieMac, November 25 2024.<br />
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<a href="https://medium.com/@LeslieMac/i-cant-watch-the-world-burn-because-the-fire-will-burn-me-first-ae2fa7d68511" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://medium.com/@LeslieMac/i-cant-watch-the-world-burn-because-the-fire-will-burn-me-first-ae2fa7d68511</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The image* circulating across social media — a group of Black women calmly drinking coffee atop a skyscraper while the city burns below — captures the fury, exhaustion, and clarity many of us feel after Election 2024. The final exit polls are in: 92% of Black women voted for Kamala Harris, while 53% of white women threw their support behind Donald Trump. Again.<br />
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This moment isn’t just about disappointment; it’s about the stark truth that Black women in America are often called to hold the line alone. For centuries, we’ve carried the weight of civic responsibility, and the lack of reciprocity from others — especially those who benefit the most from the systems we fight to dismantle — is nothing short of betrayal. It’s a betrayal with consequences. Fire spreads. And in this white supremacist hellscape, the flames always consume us first.</blockquote>
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<a href="https://medium.com/@LeslieMac/i-cant-watch-the-world-burn-because-the-fire-will-burn-me-first-ae2fa7d68511" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://medium.com/@LeslieMac/i-cant-watch-the-world-burn-because-the-fire-will-burn-me-first-ae2fa7d68511</a><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>The image* circulating across social media — a group of Black women calmly drinking coffee atop a skyscraper while the city burns below — captures the fury, exhaustion, and clarity many of us feel after Election 2024. The final exit polls are in: 92% of Black women voted for Kamala Harris, while 53% of white women threw their support behind Donald Trump. Again.<br />
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This moment isn’t just about disappointment; it’s about the stark truth that Black women in America are often called to hold the line alone. For centuries, we’ve carried the weight of civic responsibility, and the lack of reciprocity from others — especially those who benefit the most from the systems we fight to dismantle — is nothing short of betrayal. It’s a betrayal with consequences. Fire spreads. And in this white supremacist hellscape, the flames always consume us first.</blockquote>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2024 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/connie-chung-named-after.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU4.8FeM.dOCLjT1SVtgx&amp;smid=url-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Generation Connie</a> (NYT, May 11, 2023)<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>"Why Are There So Many Asian American Women Named Connie?" <br />
I thought my story was special. Little did I know it was the story of a generation.</blockquote><br /><ul class="mycode_list"><li>An interesting piece on how Connie Chung, who was a news anchor in the 80's and 90's, inspired many Asian families to name their daughters "Connie."<br />
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<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/17/books/review/connie-chung-memoir.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU4.EReN.flfxw9FWviQL&amp;smid=url-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Connie Chung Signed Off, but She Isn't Done Talking</a> (NYT, Sept 17, 2024)<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>In a frank and entertaining new memoir, the TV newscaster recounts how sexism, and Dan Rather, sidelined her groundbreaking career.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/connie-chung-named-after.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU4.8FeM.dOCLjT1SVtgx&amp;smid=url-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Generation Connie</a> (NYT, May 11, 2023)<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>"Why Are There So Many Asian American Women Named Connie?" <br />
I thought my story was special. Little did I know it was the story of a generation.</blockquote><br /><ul class="mycode_list"><li>An interesting piece on how Connie Chung, who was a news anchor in the 80's and 90's, inspired many Asian families to name their daughters "Connie."<br />
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<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/17/books/review/connie-chung-memoir.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU4.EReN.flfxw9FWviQL&amp;smid=url-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Connie Chung Signed Off, but She Isn't Done Talking</a> (NYT, Sept 17, 2024)<br />
<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>In a frank and entertaining new memoir, the TV newscaster recounts how sexism, and Dan Rather, sidelined her groundbreaking career.</blockquote>
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