Missouri voted to protect abortion rights, so state Republicans bait and switch with confusing ballot language

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Missouri voted to protect abortion rights, so state Republicans bait and switch with confusing ballot language

Missouri voted to protect abortion rights, so state Republicans bait and switch with confusing ballot language

Chernobog

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Apr 19 2025, 9:59 AM

#1

https://www.stlpr.org/government-politics-issues/2025-04-17/missouri-house-passes-amendment-that-would-re-establish-a-state-abortion-ban

I am absolutely reeling at the inclusion of "protect children from gender transition" because what the FUCK does that have to do with abortion? I really don't know who started it anymore: the republicans being the cretins they are, or whatever lobby was making sure someone was giving a speech at every rally making a bizarre and forceful (but completely unsubstantiated) declaration that transgender things (and always transwomen, never transmen!) are definitely 100% totally related to abortion access.

I'm debating if it's worth it to hound them about pediatric transition being worthy of opposition completely on its own merits; the inclusion-confusion may very well be part of the slimy strategy here, but Missouri Republicans have recently been flirting with running more pro-choice candidates so the optimistic take is they're just seeing what spaghetti sticks to the wall.

Chernobog

Apr 19 2025, 9:59 AM #1

https://www.stlpr.org/government-politics-issues/2025-04-17/missouri-house-passes-amendment-that-would-re-establish-a-state-abortion-ban

I am absolutely reeling at the inclusion of "protect children from gender transition" because what the FUCK does that have to do with abortion? I really don't know who started it anymore: the republicans being the cretins they are, or whatever lobby was making sure someone was giving a speech at every rally making a bizarre and forceful (but completely unsubstantiated) declaration that transgender things (and always transwomen, never transmen!) are definitely 100% totally related to abortion access.

I'm debating if it's worth it to hound them about pediatric transition being worthy of opposition completely on its own merits; the inclusion-confusion may very well be part of the slimy strategy here, but Missouri Republicans have recently been flirting with running more pro-choice candidates so the optimistic take is they're just seeing what spaghetti sticks to the wall.

Iota Aurigae

36

Apr 19 2025, 11:56 AM

#2

And now there’s forced teaming from the other side. Fucking lovely.

Iota Aurigae

Apr 19 2025, 11:56 AM #2

And now there’s forced teaming from the other side. Fucking lovely.

Clover
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863

Apr 19 2025, 1:21 PM

#3

Quote:Currently, the ballot language reads:

“Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to:

Guarantee access to care for medical emergencies, ectopic pregnancies, and miscarriages;

Ensure women's safety during abortions;

Ensure parental consent for minors;

Allow abortions for medical emergencies, fetal anomalies, rape, and incest;

Require physicians to provide medically accurate information; and

Protect children from gender transition?”

Yep, this is fucked. Tie this with the fact that:

Quote:The resolution repeals nearly all of Amendment 3, which was passed by voters in November with 51.6% support.

The abortion rights amendment passed by a small majority, Republicans are hoping that they can fully defeat abortion access by having people focus on the part about preventing transgender medical malpractice in children, and I'm worried this is going to be a successful strategy...

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Clover

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Apr 19 2025, 1:21 PM #3

Quote:Currently, the ballot language reads:

“Shall the Missouri Constitution be amended to:

Guarantee access to care for medical emergencies, ectopic pregnancies, and miscarriages;

Ensure women's safety during abortions;

Ensure parental consent for minors;

Allow abortions for medical emergencies, fetal anomalies, rape, and incest;

Require physicians to provide medically accurate information; and

Protect children from gender transition?”

Yep, this is fucked. Tie this with the fact that:

Quote:The resolution repeals nearly all of Amendment 3, which was passed by voters in November with 51.6% support.

The abortion rights amendment passed by a small majority, Republicans are hoping that they can fully defeat abortion access by having people focus on the part about preventing transgender medical malpractice in children, and I'm worried this is going to be a successful strategy...

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Chernobog

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Apr 19 2025, 2:56 PM

#4

(Apr 19 2025, 1:21 PM)Clover The abortion rights amendment passed by a small majority, Republicans are hoping that they can fully defeat abortion access by having people focus on the part about preventing transgender medical malpractice in children, and I'm worried this is going to be a successful strategy...

Seriously, since every other point in the ballot language would already be true in the event of legalized abortion and this one is totally left field, I really have to suspect there's an angle.

Chernobog

Apr 19 2025, 2:56 PM #4

(Apr 19 2025, 1:21 PM)Clover The abortion rights amendment passed by a small majority, Republicans are hoping that they can fully defeat abortion access by having people focus on the part about preventing transgender medical malpractice in children, and I'm worried this is going to be a successful strategy...

Seriously, since every other point in the ballot language would already be true in the event of legalized abortion and this one is totally left field, I really have to suspect there's an angle.

Wrongtoy

53

Apr 20 2025, 3:13 AM

#5

The Republican version of feminism is to recognize females as women who should want to welcome every pregnancy as an gift or at least obligation, because they’re women.

Nancy Mace does this. Riley Gaines does this. Both Elon and Trump do this.

Anti trans in itself is not feminism.

Edited Apr 20 2025, 9:28 AM by Wrongtoy.

Wrongtoy

Apr 20 2025, 3:13 AM #5

The Republican version of feminism is to recognize females as women who should want to welcome every pregnancy as an gift or at least obligation, because they’re women.

Nancy Mace does this. Riley Gaines does this. Both Elon and Trump do this.

Anti trans in itself is not feminism.

Elsacat

300

Apr 20 2025, 8:36 AM

#6

Couldn't agree more. Anti-trans is not feminism and it's not gender criticism. If anything, it's gender-promoting. Get back in your CORRECT gender box, heathen!

Republicans are not interested in the advancement or non-oppression of women as human beings. They are not fighting the trans fight to advance women's causes. They are very interested in the advancement of women within prescribed roles and subservient to men, with a nice veneer of religion on top because you don't want to make God mad, do you? This isn't just about what men want, no, it goes higher than that! Ultimate appeal-to-authority fallacy to keep the good church-goers in line.

The Republican women who uphold all that are not feminists or crusaders for women. They are handmaidens at best, just like the TRA supporters.

Elsacat

Apr 20 2025, 8:36 AM #6

Couldn't agree more. Anti-trans is not feminism and it's not gender criticism. If anything, it's gender-promoting. Get back in your CORRECT gender box, heathen!

Republicans are not interested in the advancement or non-oppression of women as human beings. They are not fighting the trans fight to advance women's causes. They are very interested in the advancement of women within prescribed roles and subservient to men, with a nice veneer of religion on top because you don't want to make God mad, do you? This isn't just about what men want, no, it goes higher than that! Ultimate appeal-to-authority fallacy to keep the good church-goers in line.

The Republican women who uphold all that are not feminists or crusaders for women. They are handmaidens at best, just like the TRA supporters.

Shroom

37

Apr 20 2025, 10:44 AM

#7

Hear hear! It depresses me to no end the way the only two mainstream sides on this hate women, just in different ways, and we're forced to choose one of these "sides" to support. Really drives home how prevalent misogyny is.

Shroom

Apr 20 2025, 10:44 AM #7

Hear hear! It depresses me to no end the way the only two mainstream sides on this hate women, just in different ways, and we're forced to choose one of these "sides" to support. Really drives home how prevalent misogyny is.

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