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Article Poor Things and Misogynistic Dreams: How Abusers Sexually Mistreat Disabled Women

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Oct 15 2024, 12:51 PM
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Women's eNews, March 11 2024.

https://womensenews.org/2024/03/poor-things-and-misogynistic-dreams-how-abusers-sexually-mistreat-disabled-women/

Quote:A 2020 study found that 28% of cases of girls who were sexually trafficked had an intellectual disability compared to the 1-3% of national prevalence. The more severe physical impairment and low cognitive abilities, the higher the risks.

Women with intellectual delays also face myriad personal and socio-environmental barriers in their sexual lives, such as difficulties with lack of sexual experience and negative sexual experiences with nondisabled individuals. 

This sobering reality is the backdrop to one of the most critically lauded films of the year, Poor Things by Yorgos Lanthimos. Based on the novel by Alasdair Gray, Poor Things, earned 11 Oscar nominations and four wins, including Best Actress for Emma Stone.
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Women's eNews, March 11 2024.

https://womensenews.org/2024/03/poor-things-and-misogynistic-dreams-how-abusers-sexually-mistreat-disabled-women/

Quote:A 2020 study found that 28% of cases of girls who were sexually trafficked had an intellectual disability compared to the 1-3% of national prevalence. The more severe physical impairment and low cognitive abilities, the higher the risks.

Women with intellectual delays also face myriad personal and socio-environmental barriers in their sexual lives, such as difficulties with lack of sexual experience and negative sexual experiences with nondisabled individuals. 

This sobering reality is the backdrop to one of the most critically lauded films of the year, Poor Things by Yorgos Lanthimos. Based on the novel by Alasdair Gray, Poor Things, earned 11 Oscar nominations and four wins, including Best Actress for Emma Stone.

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Oct 27 2024, 9:57 AM
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I haven't seen Poor Things or read the book, but hearing the premise, that a man resurrected the body of his deceased wife using the brain of their newborn child, icked me out so badly. I do like a lot of Yorgos Lanthimos' films though. I think he does satire really well, so I was thinking about giving it a chance. Then I heard about the prostitution and how the whole situation is framed as empowering, and that really sealed it for me. Nope. Hard pass.
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Oct 27 2024, 9:57 AM #2

I haven't seen Poor Things or read the book, but hearing the premise, that a man resurrected the body of his deceased wife using the brain of their newborn child, icked me out so badly. I do like a lot of Yorgos Lanthimos' films though. I think he does satire really well, so I was thinking about giving it a chance. Then I heard about the prostitution and how the whole situation is framed as empowering, and that really sealed it for me. Nope. Hard pass.

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Nov 14 2024, 8:44 AM
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I don't trust any male director to depict even regular sex scenes without an undercurrent of his personal porn fantasies (which include getting off to making the female actors do nude and uncomfortable scenes), let alone anything to do with rape and sexual exploitation. And "artsy" directors seem to be the worst of the bunch because they can get away with anything under the guise of "art", no matter how self-serving (and, being men, esp men with any social clout, they still think androcentrism and male horniness/violence are a given, and very deep and poetic).
I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing
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Nov 14 2024, 8:44 AM #3

I don't trust any male director to depict even regular sex scenes without an undercurrent of his personal porn fantasies (which include getting off to making the female actors do nude and uncomfortable scenes), let alone anything to do with rape and sexual exploitation. And "artsy" directors seem to be the worst of the bunch because they can get away with anything under the guise of "art", no matter how self-serving (and, being men, esp men with any social clout, they still think androcentrism and male horniness/violence are a given, and very deep and poetic).

I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing

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Apr 25 2025, 3:00 PM
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(Nov 14 2024, 8:44 AM)YesYourNigel I don't trust any male director to depict even regular sex scenes without an undercurrent of his personal porn fantasies (which include getting off to making the female actors do nude and uncomfortable scenes), let alone anything to do with rape and sexual exploitation. And "artsy" directors seem to be the worst of the bunch because they can get away with anything under the guise of "art", no matter how self-serving (and, being men, esp men with any social clout, they still think androcentrism and male horniness/violence are a given, and very deep and poetic).

Because a male (Paul Verhoeven) directed 'Benedetta' I don't want to watch it. Story is about a nun who has homoerotic visions and sleeps with another nun. I read reviews compare it to Below Her Mouth and Blue Is The Warmest Colour who are pornmovies imo.

The male director of Thelma (2017) also made clear to put fetishistic scenes into it, but without them I would give this movie 10/10 stars. It's one of the best I watched, because it tells the story of Thelma a student with epileptic attacks who falls in love with another girl her age and similar body apparance. In the movie Thelma has the superpower to hide objects or place them elsewhere or call them by thought. She used her powers in a very radical feminist friendly way lol, I wish we see more of this, she could change how humans behave and where they exist with these powers. She could build her own society. It's like playing The Sims 4 with cheats superior mode or so.

I also saw maybe in 2022 a manga about a school girl who had abilities like a wasp, she had a sting at he back or ass. She attacked a female tomboysh bully who was then her bodyguard and the other female bullies became her friends but one day police interrupted the school and killed many of them, the protagonist could flee. I don't know why the class was attacked by police, I didn't read further.

The manga was designed and written by two men I guess, so male gaze alert. But the premise (female victim/outcast gets a ability to control and kill others in her favor) of this got my interest. I have similar ideas in another form and wish I could make graphic novels. There aren't enough of such stories and often they stay behind their potential because the male creators don't really want to show a civilization where males are only alive to be abused similar to poor and disabled women or cattle and it's the ideal revenge and NOT some sad dystopia where the male protagonist breaks free and many pickmes help him out with the goal to be his slaves.
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Apr 25 2025, 3:00 PM #4

(Nov 14 2024, 8:44 AM)YesYourNigel I don't trust any male director to depict even regular sex scenes without an undercurrent of his personal porn fantasies (which include getting off to making the female actors do nude and uncomfortable scenes), let alone anything to do with rape and sexual exploitation. And "artsy" directors seem to be the worst of the bunch because they can get away with anything under the guise of "art", no matter how self-serving (and, being men, esp men with any social clout, they still think androcentrism and male horniness/violence are a given, and very deep and poetic).

Because a male (Paul Verhoeven) directed 'Benedetta' I don't want to watch it. Story is about a nun who has homoerotic visions and sleeps with another nun. I read reviews compare it to Below Her Mouth and Blue Is The Warmest Colour who are pornmovies imo.

The male director of Thelma (2017) also made clear to put fetishistic scenes into it, but without them I would give this movie 10/10 stars. It's one of the best I watched, because it tells the story of Thelma a student with epileptic attacks who falls in love with another girl her age and similar body apparance. In the movie Thelma has the superpower to hide objects or place them elsewhere or call them by thought. She used her powers in a very radical feminist friendly way lol, I wish we see more of this, she could change how humans behave and where they exist with these powers. She could build her own society. It's like playing The Sims 4 with cheats superior mode or so.

I also saw maybe in 2022 a manga about a school girl who had abilities like a wasp, she had a sting at he back or ass. She attacked a female tomboysh bully who was then her bodyguard and the other female bullies became her friends but one day police interrupted the school and killed many of them, the protagonist could flee. I don't know why the class was attacked by police, I didn't read further.

The manga was designed and written by two men I guess, so male gaze alert. But the premise (female victim/outcast gets a ability to control and kill others in her favor) of this got my interest. I have similar ideas in another form and wish I could make graphic novels. There aren't enough of such stories and often they stay behind their potential because the male creators don't really want to show a civilization where males are only alive to be abused similar to poor and disabled women or cattle and it's the ideal revenge and NOT some sad dystopia where the male protagonist breaks free and many pickmes help him out with the goal to be his slaves.

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Apr 25 2025, 3:19 PM
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About the movie Poor Things - I think I don't need to watch it. I see it myself how my disabled relatives (age 12 and 20) are trafficked. Their parents divorced and the girls are so addicted to their mother, they are retarded. She choose to get another man and he is just well a man I guess, pornbraindead and ped0. He had his connections and creates pictures of them and other under age girls. He shares it with other men and they  trafficked these girls around germany. I am sad about this too, I don't want to end like them, many other women who have it better in rural areas don't want to step into this. Disabled women and girls are lost, I am disabled myself and the only "help" I've got was getting caged away into asylum, where the workers had their fun to bully me. I survived this but those negative life experiences stay. I don't want to be alive anymore in this shitty society. There is nothing really good looking forward to.

btw. this happens in germany. It's a nighmare to be poor and disabled as a woman, you get arrested into asylum easly, nobody does anything against people that mistreat you (mostly relativs and nurses, social workers, and so on). You are seen as the mentally ill, because you don't have a job in patriarchy and no man and no children, your values comme from schizophrenia, borderline, depression.... Many people are ableist - theynare Nazis. The normal people get into these jobs for money and their nazi mindset to help society with getting rid of unproductiv humans by chemically lobotomizing them and caged them into asylum. My health got down, i am fully alone with this every day, but they made money out of it.

Nothing really has changed since women can vote. 

Women are still cattle, because our predators are still alive.
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Apr 25 2025, 3:19 PM #5

About the movie Poor Things - I think I don't need to watch it. I see it myself how my disabled relatives (age 12 and 20) are trafficked. Their parents divorced and the girls are so addicted to their mother, they are retarded. She choose to get another man and he is just well a man I guess, pornbraindead and ped0. He had his connections and creates pictures of them and other under age girls. He shares it with other men and they  trafficked these girls around germany. I am sad about this too, I don't want to end like them, many other women who have it better in rural areas don't want to step into this. Disabled women and girls are lost, I am disabled myself and the only "help" I've got was getting caged away into asylum, where the workers had their fun to bully me. I survived this but those negative life experiences stay. I don't want to be alive anymore in this shitty society. There is nothing really good looking forward to.

btw. this happens in germany. It's a nighmare to be poor and disabled as a woman, you get arrested into asylum easly, nobody does anything against people that mistreat you (mostly relativs and nurses, social workers, and so on). You are seen as the mentally ill, because you don't have a job in patriarchy and no man and no children, your values comme from schizophrenia, borderline, depression.... Many people are ableist - theynare Nazis. The normal people get into these jobs for money and their nazi mindset to help society with getting rid of unproductiv humans by chemically lobotomizing them and caged them into asylum. My health got down, i am fully alone with this every day, but they made money out of it.

Nothing really has changed since women can vote. 

Women are still cattle, because our predators are still alive.

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I haven't watched it, maybe I will. This nothing new though, intellectually disabled women are very vulnerable to trafficking, rape and abuse and are actively targeted for that. They're also at risk of being raped by carers or other intellectually disabled men living in the same facility. It's a very real problem that imo deserves more recognition.
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Today, 3:16 AM #6

I haven't watched it, maybe I will. This nothing new though, intellectually disabled women are very vulnerable to trafficking, rape and abuse and are actively targeted for that. They're also at risk of being raped by carers or other intellectually disabled men living in the same facility. It's a very real problem that imo deserves more recognition.

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