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News Nine US states now have measures to try to overturn equal marriage

News Nine US states now have measures to try to overturn equal marriage

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Yesterday, 2:12 AM
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Pink News, February 26 2025.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/02/26/obergefell-v-hodges-us-states-equal-marriage/

Quote:At least nine US states have introduced measures to overturn the Supreme Court’s 2015 Obergefell v Hodges ruling that legalised equal marriage across the country.

Five of the measures, including one introduced in Michigan on Tuesday (25 February), are calling on the Supreme Court to overturn the landmark ruling that granted equal marriage rights across the country almost a decade ago.

According to NBC News, the states which have introduced measures explicitly seeking to reverse Obergefell v Hodges are Idaho, Michigan, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

If the landmark ruling is overturned, it would mean that same-sex marriage rights would be decided on a state-by-state basis, meaning Republican states could look to ban equal marriage once more. This was seen when Roe v Wade was struck down in 2022; after states were allowed to implement their own laws, almost a dozen around the US moved to ban abortion with no exceptions.

Lawmakers in Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas have introduced similar bills on equal marriage – these don’t specifically reference Obergefell v Hodges, but would seek to create a category for marriage called “covenant marriage” which would be only for one man and one woman.
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Pink News, February 26 2025.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/02/26/obergefell-v-hodges-us-states-equal-marriage/

Quote:At least nine US states have introduced measures to overturn the Supreme Court’s 2015 Obergefell v Hodges ruling that legalised equal marriage across the country.

Five of the measures, including one introduced in Michigan on Tuesday (25 February), are calling on the Supreme Court to overturn the landmark ruling that granted equal marriage rights across the country almost a decade ago.

According to NBC News, the states which have introduced measures explicitly seeking to reverse Obergefell v Hodges are Idaho, Michigan, Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

If the landmark ruling is overturned, it would mean that same-sex marriage rights would be decided on a state-by-state basis, meaning Republican states could look to ban equal marriage once more. This was seen when Roe v Wade was struck down in 2022; after states were allowed to implement their own laws, almost a dozen around the US moved to ban abortion with no exceptions.

Lawmakers in Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas have introduced similar bills on equal marriage – these don’t specifically reference Obergefell v Hodges, but would seek to create a category for marriage called “covenant marriage” which would be only for one man and one woman.

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Yesterday, 7:50 AM
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Sure can't wait to see how this gets defended by people who claim it's a pushback on trans in some way. As if they didn't know rolling back gay rights would be part of the agenda too, and they either support it or consider it acceptable collateral damage.
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Yesterday, 7:50 AM #2

Sure can't wait to see how this gets defended by people who claim it's a pushback on trans in some way. As if they didn't know rolling back gay rights would be part of the agenda too, and they either support it or consider it acceptable collateral damage.

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komorebi
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Yesterday, 11:15 AM
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Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!
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Yesterday, 11:15 AM #3

Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!

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Yesterday, 11:30 AM
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(Yesterday, 11:15 AM)komorebi Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!

Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."
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Yesterday, 11:30 AM #4

(Yesterday, 11:15 AM)komorebi Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!

Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."

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Yesterday, 12:42 PM
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I feel like the common sentiment of the ""Conservative Lites"" (or "'I don't identify as a conservative' but you objectively are, sir/ma'am," so most current Ovarit users) on gay rights is something like "Whatever, why should I care either way. All they care about is fucking and they can do that gross shit in secret no matter what the law is."

I also wonder how many of them (consciously or not) think the LGB deserves to take a few hits because they haven't expelled the T, and how many of these same people get upset when their cohort say the exact same thing about women ("You supported this!" and all that) and then thoroughly explain the reasons (which were copied from a post by an actual feminist) why female socialization and male supremacy means that's not a fair assessment.
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Yesterday, 12:42 PM #5

I feel like the common sentiment of the ""Conservative Lites"" (or "'I don't identify as a conservative' but you objectively are, sir/ma'am," so most current Ovarit users) on gay rights is something like "Whatever, why should I care either way. All they care about is fucking and they can do that gross shit in secret no matter what the law is."

I also wonder how many of them (consciously or not) think the LGB deserves to take a few hits because they haven't expelled the T, and how many of these same people get upset when their cohort say the exact same thing about women ("You supported this!" and all that) and then thoroughly explain the reasons (which were copied from a post by an actual feminist) why female socialization and male supremacy means that's not a fair assessment.

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Yesterday, 1:02 PM
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@Shroom Yeah they probably just think « meh, who cares about the gays and lesbians, they are weird too anyway » and go on with their day.
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Yesterday, 1:02 PM #6

@Shroom Yeah they probably just think « meh, who cares about the gays and lesbians, they are weird too anyway » and go on with their day.

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Yesterday, 1:56 PM
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(Yesterday, 11:30 AM)Lemonade Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."

💀🙃

I know, I know...... They're not arguing in good faith, they'll just move the goalposts... I know! But I just can't help but fantasize about a world where we put the proof that they are wrong in front of their noses and they respond with, "Oh, wow, I didn't know that, maybe I was wrong after all." Is that so bad? 🥲 (Joking, in case it wasn't clear. lol)
Edited Yesterday, 2:15 PM by komorebi. Edit Reason: edited to clarify is joke hehe
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Yesterday, 1:56 PM #7

(Yesterday, 11:30 AM)Lemonade Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."

💀🙃

I know, I know...... They're not arguing in good faith, they'll just move the goalposts... I know! But I just can't help but fantasize about a world where we put the proof that they are wrong in front of their noses and they respond with, "Oh, wow, I didn't know that, maybe I was wrong after all." Is that so bad? 🥲 (Joking, in case it wasn't clear. lol)

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Yesterday, 2:34 PM
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(Yesterday, 7:50 AM)Elsacat Sure can't wait to see how this gets defended by people who claim it's a pushback on trans in some way. As if they didn't know rolling back gay rights would be part of the agenda too, and they either support it or consider it acceptable collateral damage.
I won’t defend it, but I do think it’s happening in part because of homosexuals having allowed ourselves to be used as a fig leaf for trans ideology. I was getting kicked out of lesbian groups for resisting it at least as early as 2010, so there were plenty of us willing to enforce it.

I do wonder what things would have been like if all LGBs had said no thanks from the start to letting the T usurp the success of our rights movement. At least people wouldn’t be able to point to what looks a lot like the slippery slope they were told was a figment of their imagination.
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Yesterday, 2:34 PM #8

(Yesterday, 7:50 AM)Elsacat Sure can't wait to see how this gets defended by people who claim it's a pushback on trans in some way. As if they didn't know rolling back gay rights would be part of the agenda too, and they either support it or consider it acceptable collateral damage.
I won’t defend it, but I do think it’s happening in part because of homosexuals having allowed ourselves to be used as a fig leaf for trans ideology. I was getting kicked out of lesbian groups for resisting it at least as early as 2010, so there were plenty of us willing to enforce it.

I do wonder what things would have been like if all LGBs had said no thanks from the start to letting the T usurp the success of our rights movement. At least people wouldn’t be able to point to what looks a lot like the slippery slope they were told was a figment of their imagination.

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Yesterday, 8:12 PM
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(Yesterday, 11:30 AM)Lemonade
(Yesterday, 11:15 AM)komorebi Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!

Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."

Last sentence is reserved for after the rights get overruled. The classic "Only paranoid hysterical nutjobs think anyone cares about violating these rights, ofc they're safe" ->"So the rights got taken away, who gives a shit 🤷‍♂️? Stop being a baby"
Edited Yesterday, 8:27 PM by YesYourNigel.
I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing
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Yesterday, 8:12 PM #9

(Yesterday, 11:30 AM)Lemonade
(Yesterday, 11:15 AM)komorebi Can we PLEASE send this to everyone who said this would never happen? I should have made a list!

Let me make some predictions...

"It's a publicity stunt. It won't really pass. Republicans/Christians aren't really against gay marriage anymore. Marriage isn't the most important issue right now anyway."

Last sentence is reserved for after the rights get overruled. The classic "Only paranoid hysterical nutjobs think anyone cares about violating these rights, ofc they're safe" ->"So the rights got taken away, who gives a shit 🤷‍♂️? Stop being a baby"

I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing

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