What's with "gooners" in both men and women on the internet?

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Discussion What's with "gooners" in both men and women on the internet?

Discussion What's with "gooners" in both men and women on the internet?

Zola

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Apr 28 2025, 1:28 AM

#1

Definition

I don't know if anyone is as confused about this word as I am, because it constantly changes meaning every 5 years, but recently in voice chats, games, etc, it seems that being a "gooner" is normalised and something that can be discussed openly. even on tiktok. The definition that's being used is that they are porn-addicts, self-proclaimed degenerates, people who can't help but think about sex, people who masturbate openly, etc. I don't know how far a sexual deviance does this definition encompass, but here we are.

Porn & degenerate behaviour

what would be a good example is this guy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-man-leaves-suicide-note-185100661.html
He was indecently dressed in public, got caught in a viral video, and that made him wake up to his actions. Not the reaction and shock of the women who had to see him, but the internet.
It seems like people on the internet are not embarassed or ashamed about watching porn or objectifying women at all. I feel like it got worse, is it just me?

Women too?

I've seen a lot of women actually admit to watching porn and speak like a gooner. they'd make lewd art, laugh at questionable jokes, and also generally display incel behaviour.

What do you think about this? have you seen online gooners?

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Zola

Apr 28 2025, 1:28 AM #1

Definition

I don't know if anyone is as confused about this word as I am, because it constantly changes meaning every 5 years, but recently in voice chats, games, etc, it seems that being a "gooner" is normalised and something that can be discussed openly. even on tiktok. The definition that's being used is that they are porn-addicts, self-proclaimed degenerates, people who can't help but think about sex, people who masturbate openly, etc. I don't know how far a sexual deviance does this definition encompass, but here we are.

Porn & degenerate behaviour

what would be a good example is this guy: https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-man-leaves-suicide-note-185100661.html
He was indecently dressed in public, got caught in a viral video, and that made him wake up to his actions. Not the reaction and shock of the women who had to see him, but the internet.
It seems like people on the internet are not embarassed or ashamed about watching porn or objectifying women at all. I feel like it got worse, is it just me?

Women too?

I've seen a lot of women actually admit to watching porn and speak like a gooner. they'd make lewd art, laugh at questionable jokes, and also generally display incel behaviour.

What do you think about this? have you seen online gooners?

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Elsacat

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Apr 28 2025, 7:52 AM

#2

I've seen some of this and it's embarrassing. It's like watching people shoot up in public, or stumble out of a bar and piss themselves before falling down.

Elsacat

Apr 28 2025, 7:52 AM #2

I've seen some of this and it's embarrassing. It's like watching people shoot up in public, or stumble out of a bar and piss themselves before falling down.

highpriestess

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Apr 29 2025, 9:45 AM

#3

I think goonerism is very male, with the majority of porn being made by and targeted to men. And I think it's disgusting and pathetic.

Women can also be negatively influenced by porn, but I think it's usually in a different way. There are probably female gooners out there, but generally I think women are more likely to sexualize themselves to cater to gooners, or participate in the dangerous and degrading kind of sex you see in porn because it's so normalized. Especially for anyone who grew up seeing it from a young age.

To me the real female equivalent of goonerism is fujoshi (women obsessed with boys love manga and anime). Unlike mainstream porn, yaoi/BL is targeted to women. As a former fujoshi, I don't think it's as insidious as being a gooner, but some people do take it into gross fetishising territory.

highpriestess

Apr 29 2025, 9:45 AM #3

I think goonerism is very male, with the majority of porn being made by and targeted to men. And I think it's disgusting and pathetic.

Women can also be negatively influenced by porn, but I think it's usually in a different way. There are probably female gooners out there, but generally I think women are more likely to sexualize themselves to cater to gooners, or participate in the dangerous and degrading kind of sex you see in porn because it's so normalized. Especially for anyone who grew up seeing it from a young age.

To me the real female equivalent of goonerism is fujoshi (women obsessed with boys love manga and anime). Unlike mainstream porn, yaoi/BL is targeted to women. As a former fujoshi, I don't think it's as insidious as being a gooner, but some people do take it into gross fetishising territory.

Elsacat

343

Apr 29 2025, 10:49 AM

#4

I've run across fujo goonerism in fanspaces and it's all a bit much. Not surprisingly, a lot of those same women and girls identify as nonbinary or trans. It was probably the thing that made me realize, I'm too old for this shit, I just want to talk about works I like, not be hit with bad fujo art, "omegaverse" and "mpreg" versions of characters, and other weirdness. I'm not anti-shipping, anti-fanfic, or anti-fanart; I have an X-Files avatar, of course I'm aware of shipping in fandoms, lol. I just don't like it when it gets goony and that's all anyone wants to focus on. I feel like grandma who needs to be helped to her favorite napping chair.

Elsacat

Apr 29 2025, 10:49 AM #4

I've run across fujo goonerism in fanspaces and it's all a bit much. Not surprisingly, a lot of those same women and girls identify as nonbinary or trans. It was probably the thing that made me realize, I'm too old for this shit, I just want to talk about works I like, not be hit with bad fujo art, "omegaverse" and "mpreg" versions of characters, and other weirdness. I'm not anti-shipping, anti-fanfic, or anti-fanart; I have an X-Files avatar, of course I'm aware of shipping in fandoms, lol. I just don't like it when it gets goony and that's all anyone wants to focus on. I feel like grandma who needs to be helped to her favorite napping chair.

Zola

8

Apr 30 2025, 4:47 AM

#5

I don't know what fujoshi is but reading erotic books is hardly gooner or weird right?
I agree, the women who watch porn or act in degenerate ways are attention-seeking for the boys, but i think it goes further that they are the exact copy of the male incel and they themselves see themselves as ugly or something. I've noticed it's women in their late 20s or in their 30s that are single that behave like this, and i don't think this phenomenon existed before when we were all younger.

My next running theory is that it is adult brainrot and they are openly being gooners because they are so entrenched in the spaces that they don't realise when to codeswitch out of it, kind of like the brainrot of the younger generations.

Zola

Apr 30 2025, 4:47 AM #5

I don't know what fujoshi is but reading erotic books is hardly gooner or weird right?
I agree, the women who watch porn or act in degenerate ways are attention-seeking for the boys, but i think it goes further that they are the exact copy of the male incel and they themselves see themselves as ugly or something. I've noticed it's women in their late 20s or in their 30s that are single that behave like this, and i don't think this phenomenon existed before when we were all younger.

My next running theory is that it is adult brainrot and they are openly being gooners because they are so entrenched in the spaces that they don't realise when to codeswitch out of it, kind of like the brainrot of the younger generations.

Threnody

4

Apr 30 2025, 6:11 AM

#6

If I wander into KPop fandom spaces there is a lot of shipping of real life people together which I find offputting. Especially when it is sex and fetish art or fic. Men and women do this but I think women do fic and art more in KPop specifically.

Threnody

Apr 30 2025, 6:11 AM #6

If I wander into KPop fandom spaces there is a lot of shipping of real life people together which I find offputting. Especially when it is sex and fetish art or fic. Men and women do this but I think women do fic and art more in KPop specifically.

highpriestess

11

Apr 30 2025, 9:12 AM

#7

(Apr 30 2025, 4:47 AM)Zola I don't know what fujoshi is but reading erotic books is hardly gooner or weird right?

Lucky you! But yes, to clarify I don't think consuming yaoi is inherently harmful in itself. It does depend on the content, though. There are some that are just cute love stories, but there is also a lot of questionable hardcore erotic content in some of them — fetishization, age gaps, rape, bdsm, etc.).

And yeah, we can't forget the fujoshi to TIF pipeline — a lot of fujos get so into it that they start transitioning because they want to live their yaoi dreams out in real life, which is impossible for many reasons, least of all that yaoi is not real life. It's as fake as any other kind of porn (though less harmful, as no real people are exploited or abused). But it is a fantasy of gay romance created by and for straight women and not remotely representative of actual homosexual men's experiences.

The issue is more with the community and behaviour that some women develop around it, which also intersects with a lot of hardcore weeaboo stuff. Like when they start to fetishize Asian and/or gay men, applying fictional yaoi stereotypes and roles to real people, acting like obsessive perverts in public. As Threnody said, kpop does this too, but it's worse imo because it's fully based on real people.

I'm grateful I had my phase many years ago, before all the trans stuff became so common and encouraged, my younger self might have fallen for it.

highpriestess

Apr 30 2025, 9:12 AM #7

(Apr 30 2025, 4:47 AM)Zola I don't know what fujoshi is but reading erotic books is hardly gooner or weird right?

Lucky you! But yes, to clarify I don't think consuming yaoi is inherently harmful in itself. It does depend on the content, though. There are some that are just cute love stories, but there is also a lot of questionable hardcore erotic content in some of them — fetishization, age gaps, rape, bdsm, etc.).

And yeah, we can't forget the fujoshi to TIF pipeline — a lot of fujos get so into it that they start transitioning because they want to live their yaoi dreams out in real life, which is impossible for many reasons, least of all that yaoi is not real life. It's as fake as any other kind of porn (though less harmful, as no real people are exploited or abused). But it is a fantasy of gay romance created by and for straight women and not remotely representative of actual homosexual men's experiences.

The issue is more with the community and behaviour that some women develop around it, which also intersects with a lot of hardcore weeaboo stuff. Like when they start to fetishize Asian and/or gay men, applying fictional yaoi stereotypes and roles to real people, acting like obsessive perverts in public. As Threnody said, kpop does this too, but it's worse imo because it's fully based on real people.

I'm grateful I had my phase many years ago, before all the trans stuff became so common and encouraged, my younger self might have fallen for it.

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Apr 30 2025, 9:58 AM

#8

(Apr 29 2025, 10:49 AM)Elsacat I just don't like it when it gets goony and that's all anyone wants to focus on. I feel like grandma who needs to be helped to her favorite napping chair.

lmao

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Apr 30 2025, 9:58 AM #8

(Apr 29 2025, 10:49 AM)Elsacat I just don't like it when it gets goony and that's all anyone wants to focus on. I feel like grandma who needs to be helped to her favorite napping chair.

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