Article Young men and women are taking the 'gender gap' to staggering new levels
Article Young men and women are taking the 'gender gap' to staggering new levels
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/young-men-women-are-taking-poll-gender-gap-staggering-new-levels-rcna202672
I hate that even politics is becoming further gendered now. Female = left of "right", male = "right, and probably then some"
Anything that becomes strongly associated with "female" seems to become devalued, in any culture, so this has some worrying implications.
More drilldown on this:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/steve-kornacki-white-men-white-women-gap-gender-gap-rcna196791
"New NBC News polling data illustrates the cultural and political gulf separating white men without college degrees and white women with college degrees"
Quote:A higher share of Gen Z men (72%) than Gen Z women (56%) say transgender women should not be allowed to play female sports.
Quote:Three in four Gen Z women disagree that the country would be stronger if women held traditional roles, with 58% strongly disagreeing. While 59% of Gen Z men also disagree with that sentiment, only a third say they strongly disagree.
Quote:The share of Gen Z women who say abortion is their top issue (16%) is more than double any other age range. Meanwhile, 4% of Gen Z men say abortion is the most important issue to them.
Quote:More young men (69%) agree there are only two genders, while about half (51%) of young women say the same.
It pisses me off when women not wanting to date men whose ideology openly talks about raping, beating and enslaving them gets presented as mere difference in political opinion, akin to disagreeing on whether you like Pepsi or Coke more. The internet gave women a voice to speak of the abuse they endure and to reach other women either to warn them, or who've also experienced the same thing and been gaslit all their lives about it. It also gave them more insight into the extent of misogyny and depravity in male communities. The male reaction ofc is to claim victim status because their victims are pushing back on being oppressed.
Some other observations:
Quote:A higher share of Gen Z men (72%) than Gen Z women (56%) say transgender women should not be allowed to play female sports.
Quote:Three in four Gen Z women disagree that the country would be stronger if women held traditional roles, with 58% strongly disagreeing. While 59% of Gen Z men also disagree with that sentiment, only a third say they strongly disagree.
Quote:The share of Gen Z women who say abortion is their top issue (16%) is more than double any other age range. Meanwhile, 4% of Gen Z men say abortion is the most important issue to them.
Quote:More young men (69%) agree there are only two genders, while about half (51%) of young women say the same.
(May 2 2025, 6:01 AM)YesYourNigel So many men won't go full MRA straight up, but will kinda just shrug about it, because most men really just don't give a shit about women.
(May 2 2025, 6:01 AM)YesYourNigel So many men won't go full MRA straight up, but will kinda just shrug about it, because most men really just don't give a shit about women.
(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldys I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.
(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldys I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.
(May 4 2025, 8:21 AM)Elsacat(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldys I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.
I'd take it a step further and say that a lot of men, good and bad, see us as property. Not even in the sense that they would declare "you are my property" where it's a conscious thought, but that the feelings they have toward us are more or less like how they view things they've acquired and own. Some things they treat well, others not so much, they get defensive about their property, and another man's property is that man's business.
(May 4 2025, 8:21 AM)Elsacat(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldys I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.
I'd take it a step further and say that a lot of men, good and bad, see us as property. Not even in the sense that they would declare "you are my property" where it's a conscious thought, but that the feelings they have toward us are more or less like how they view things they've acquired and own. Some things they treat well, others not so much, they get defensive about their property, and another man's property is that man's business.
(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldysI do find that "pets" communicates the fact that these men can be attached to their property the same way they can be to their pets (as opposed to the stereotypical image of a perpetually angry yelling misogynist), but that doesn't mean they'll be, say, against having animals grow up in cages barely able to move only to be sent to the meat grinder and eaten by them. The idealised wife is pretty close to a pet (or at least a dog - man's best friend, wink wink) - must be unconditionally loving, submissive and obedient no matter what you throw at her. Such an extremely naive, child-like and "pure" fawning machine, with no hint of anything that might be construed as challenging, that even heartless assholes might feel bad about raising a hand at her. This is how most people like to imagine victims of domestic violence. Women who want nothing but to serve their man obediently but are prevented in their noble pursuit by the man's self-defeating anger issues.(May 2 2025, 6:01 AM)YesYourNigel So many men won't go full MRA straight up, but will kinda just shrug about it, because most men really just don't give a shit about women.
I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.
(May 4 2025, 3:36 AM)amareldysI do find that "pets" communicates the fact that these men can be attached to their property the same way they can be to their pets (as opposed to the stereotypical image of a perpetually angry yelling misogynist), but that doesn't mean they'll be, say, against having animals grow up in cages barely able to move only to be sent to the meat grinder and eaten by them. The idealised wife is pretty close to a pet (or at least a dog - man's best friend, wink wink) - must be unconditionally loving, submissive and obedient no matter what you throw at her. Such an extremely naive, child-like and "pure" fawning machine, with no hint of anything that might be construed as challenging, that even heartless assholes might feel bad about raising a hand at her. This is how most people like to imagine victims of domestic violence. Women who want nothing but to serve their man obediently but are prevented in their noble pursuit by the man's self-defeating anger issues.(May 2 2025, 6:01 AM)YesYourNigel So many men won't go full MRA straight up, but will kinda just shrug about it, because most men really just don't give a shit about women.
I think a lot of "good" men kinda see us as pets. They love us, and are shocked when other people abuse their pets, but ultimately understand that not all countries have the same view of animal rights that they have, and if some cultures beat their dogs and women, well that is their business.