Danish women to face conscription by lottery

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Danish women to face conscription by lottery

Danish women to face conscription by lottery

VerdantHorizon

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Jul 1 2025, 7:23 PM

#1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e0094n5d3o

Has this general topic already been discussed, Danish women now being eligible for conscription like men? I'm curious what others think. I don't know much about Denmark or its military, but I hope sexual violence isn't as prevalent there as it is in the US military.

I used to believe that if conscription exists, it should apply to both men and women, but after learning more about the high rates of sexual assault and domestic violence against women in the military by their fellow (male) service members I'm less sure that forcing women to serve alongside men under those conditions is true equality.

(Reactions from men that I've read on Reddit have been gross, salivating at owning feminists like it's some kind of gotcha instead of most feminists being anti-war and anti-male-conscription anyway :puke:

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VerdantHorizon

Jul 1 2025, 7:23 PM #1

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1e0094n5d3o

Has this general topic already been discussed, Danish women now being eligible for conscription like men? I'm curious what others think. I don't know much about Denmark or its military, but I hope sexual violence isn't as prevalent there as it is in the US military.

I used to believe that if conscription exists, it should apply to both men and women, but after learning more about the high rates of sexual assault and domestic violence against women in the military by their fellow (male) service members I'm less sure that forcing women to serve alongside men under those conditions is true equality.

(Reactions from men that I've read on Reddit have been gross, salivating at owning feminists like it's some kind of gotcha instead of most feminists being anti-war and anti-male-conscription anyway :puke: )

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Jul 1 2025, 9:10 PM

#2

Quote:Speaking to the Reuters news agency, Katrine, a current volunteer in Denmark's military, said: "In the world situation we're in right now, it's necessary to have more conscripts, and I think that women should contribute to that equally, as men do.

"I think it's a positive change."

It's a "positive change" to force women to go risk dying and getting raped in war?

Women are at greater risk of violence and abuse in war. Not just from the "enemy" but from their own side. I do not know what Denmark's military culture is like, but all countries have men who are rapists and misogynists. Women face higher rates of PTSD due to sexual abuse and rape than male soldiers, I guess now let's throw PTSD from forced military service into the mix as well!

(Jul 1 2025, 7:23 PM)VerdantHorizon (Reactions from men that I've read on Reddit have been gross, salivating at owning feminists like it's some kind of gotcha instead of most feminists being anti-war and anti-male-conscription anyway )

I'm wholly unsurprised. These are the same men who immediately jump to "so I can punch women then" when someone talks about equal rights for women.

Europe does face a serious threat from Russia so it is sensible to want to train defensive units, especially when they can no longer rely on the United States to be their ally. I am overall against drafts, though—if your citizens aren't willing to voluntarily fight for your country then what does that say about your country?

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Jul 1 2025, 9:10 PM #2

Quote:Speaking to the Reuters news agency, Katrine, a current volunteer in Denmark's military, said: "In the world situation we're in right now, it's necessary to have more conscripts, and I think that women should contribute to that equally, as men do.

"I think it's a positive change."

It's a "positive change" to force women to go risk dying and getting raped in war?

Women are at greater risk of violence and abuse in war. Not just from the "enemy" but from their own side. I do not know what Denmark's military culture is like, but all countries have men who are rapists and misogynists. Women face higher rates of PTSD due to sexual abuse and rape than male soldiers, I guess now let's throw PTSD from forced military service into the mix as well!

(Jul 1 2025, 7:23 PM)VerdantHorizon (Reactions from men that I've read on Reddit have been gross, salivating at owning feminists like it's some kind of gotcha instead of most feminists being anti-war and anti-male-conscription anyway )

I'm wholly unsurprised. These are the same men who immediately jump to "so I can punch women then" when someone talks about equal rights for women.

Europe does face a serious threat from Russia so it is sensible to want to train defensive units, especially when they can no longer rely on the United States to be their ally. I am overall against drafts, though—if your citizens aren't willing to voluntarily fight for your country then what does that say about your country?

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Impress Polly

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Yesterday, 3:56 AM

#3

But wait, my understanding was that we need men in our lives to protect us. Against other men. What the fuck happened to that??!

The woke-ass pick-me shit of the women who defend "egalitarian" policies like these does not fail to amuse me. You know good and well you hate this misogynistic policy! And men frankly know good and well that the entire radfem movement exists because women opposed a war (the Vietnam War) and the conscription of men into to that war and got abused for their trouble bothering. Men deciding to shirk their evolutionary obligation to defend you against other men is (part of) your penalty for demanding legal and social equality. The men of Reddit -- who are really just the id of men in general -- plainly say it. That's exactly what it is and why they're so giddy. Because they hate you and resent the comparative freedom we enjoy today. It's to that end that they weaponize the language of equality to find new ways of causing women needless harm, suffering, and death even though they've championed more peace and freedom for men.

I get that, with our current administration in place (that I did not vote for and neither did most women), there is at least like a 20% chance that the Danes may one day be called upon to defend against an invasion of Greenland or something (or Russia may one day get that far into Europe or something), but seriously. Here in the U.S., our government introduced a similar policy of universal conscription not too terribly long ago as well and I had to register. We're at war a lot more often than Denmark and so far the policy shift hasn't affected me. I doubt it ever will. So don't get me wrong and think I'm blowing developments like these out of proportion or something. BUT the reason why women have to register too now is because men's rights activists demanded it under the guise of equality. And the feminists here had nothing to say about it. No response but "I guess we have to agree, YaY, here comes more equality now!" Because that's what we want, right? Riiiiiiiight?? No bad faith here to call out? It just annoys me.

Edited Yesterday, 6:54 PM by Impress Polly.

Impress Polly

Yesterday, 3:56 AM #3

But wait, my understanding was that we need men in our lives to protect us. Against other men. What the fuck happened to that??!

The woke-ass pick-me shit of the women who defend "egalitarian" policies like these does not fail to amuse me. You know good and well you hate this misogynistic policy! And men frankly know good and well that the entire radfem movement exists because women opposed a war (the Vietnam War) and the conscription of men into to that war and got abused for their trouble bothering. Men deciding to shirk their evolutionary obligation to defend you against other men is (part of) your penalty for demanding legal and social equality. The men of Reddit -- who are really just the id of men in general -- plainly say it. That's exactly what it is and why they're so giddy. Because they hate you and resent the comparative freedom we enjoy today. It's to that end that they weaponize the language of equality to find new ways of causing women needless harm, suffering, and death even though they've championed more peace and freedom for men.

I get that, with our current administration in place (that I did not vote for and neither did most women), there is at least like a 20% chance that the Danes may one day be called upon to defend against an invasion of Greenland or something (or Russia may one day get that far into Europe or something), but seriously. Here in the U.S., our government introduced a similar policy of universal conscription not too terribly long ago as well and I had to register. We're at war a lot more often than Denmark and so far the policy shift hasn't affected me. I doubt it ever will. So don't get me wrong and think I'm blowing developments like these out of proportion or something. BUT the reason why women have to register too now is because men's rights activists demanded it under the guise of equality. And the feminists here had nothing to say about it. No response but "I guess we have to agree, YaY, here comes more equality now!" Because that's what we want, right? Riiiiiiiight?? No bad faith here to call out? It just annoys me.

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