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AI is spiritual warfare

AI is spiritual warfare

 
Sep 3 2025, 5:00 PM
#1
I am so sick of the prase "well its coming so we better start using it now." 

Work already had barely any meaning. As automation has increased over the last century, so has beurocracy, to keep us all running on the treadmill (because free time = lost profits and eventual revolution). 

And now, we're supposed to use AI to generate documents, and then use AI to summarise the documents back to us, but then always double check everything because AI is so unreliable. I wrote a dicument/process that i was actually a bit proud of (despire the process itself being largely beurocracy for the sake of beurocracy) and once complete I was told to put it through an AI to take the human tone out of it and make it blander. 

The idea of proof reading a robot's reinterpretation of my work, that will then be read by other robots, makes me want to break down and cry.  I could be growing food, or fixing things, or taking care of people. But i need the flexibility and income that a "real" job offers, so i can take care of the kids i am seperated from all day.

The only thing we were permitted to make is paperwork, and now theyre even taking that from us. Keeping our bodies hostage 8+hrs a day while they starve our souls.

Capitalism is a hell and AI is one of the demons torturing us.

I know this isnt really related to women and feminism but i needed to vent to some people who arent distracted by the shinyiness of the new toy.
Edited Sep 3 2025, 5:04 PM by jelliknight.
jelliknight
Sep 3 2025, 5:00 PM #1

I am so sick of the prase "well its coming so we better start using it now." 

Work already had barely any meaning. As automation has increased over the last century, so has beurocracy, to keep us all running on the treadmill (because free time = lost profits and eventual revolution). 

And now, we're supposed to use AI to generate documents, and then use AI to summarise the documents back to us, but then always double check everything because AI is so unreliable. I wrote a dicument/process that i was actually a bit proud of (despire the process itself being largely beurocracy for the sake of beurocracy) and once complete I was told to put it through an AI to take the human tone out of it and make it blander. 

The idea of proof reading a robot's reinterpretation of my work, that will then be read by other robots, makes me want to break down and cry.  I could be growing food, or fixing things, or taking care of people. But i need the flexibility and income that a "real" job offers, so i can take care of the kids i am seperated from all day.

The only thing we were permitted to make is paperwork, and now theyre even taking that from us. Keeping our bodies hostage 8+hrs a day while they starve our souls.

Capitalism is a hell and AI is one of the demons torturing us.

I know this isnt really related to women and feminism but i needed to vent to some people who arent distracted by the shinyiness of the new toy.

Sep 3 2025, 5:57 PM
#2
https://sfstandard.com/2025/09/02/openai-sam-altman-elon-musk-ai-regulation/

Quote:In a statement to the Journal, representatives from the PAC decried a “vast force out there that’s looking to slow down AI deployment, prevent the American worker from benefiting from the U.S. leading in global innovation and job creation, and erect a patchwork of regulation.” Leading the Future, they said, “is going to be the counterforce going into next year.”

People only care about "jobs" because we care about being able to pay for our lives. And how exactly is the American worker going to benefit from the U.S. "leading in global innovation"? Jobs are already going away, and "innovative" tech companies have been outsourcing for years and years now. Decades at this point. I have no reason to believe that AI innovations are going to bring more and better-paid work to Americans or anybody.

Being told to feed your work to AI to make it blander sounds like something that would be in "Office Space" if that movie were made today. "We can't have our work sounding human, people might think we're behind with tech and not innovative." And these are supposed to be great, innovative minds who are all part of running the global economic machine?
Elsacat
Sep 3 2025, 5:57 PM #2

https://sfstandard.com/2025/09/02/openai-sam-altman-elon-musk-ai-regulation/

Quote:In a statement to the Journal, representatives from the PAC decried a “vast force out there that’s looking to slow down AI deployment, prevent the American worker from benefiting from the U.S. leading in global innovation and job creation, and erect a patchwork of regulation.” Leading the Future, they said, “is going to be the counterforce going into next year.”

People only care about "jobs" because we care about being able to pay for our lives. And how exactly is the American worker going to benefit from the U.S. "leading in global innovation"? Jobs are already going away, and "innovative" tech companies have been outsourcing for years and years now. Decades at this point. I have no reason to believe that AI innovations are going to bring more and better-paid work to Americans or anybody.

Being told to feed your work to AI to make it blander sounds like something that would be in "Office Space" if that movie were made today. "We can't have our work sounding human, people might think we're behind with tech and not innovative." And these are supposed to be great, innovative minds who are all part of running the global economic machine?

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Sep 4 2025, 2:03 AM
#3
The reason I'm not "anti-AI" as a concept is because I actually believe automation and industrialization is essential post-capitalism to improve our working conditions and achieving a post scarcity economy https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Post-scarcity - and AI would fit into that well. But I am fully aware that under capitalism, automation and capitalism does not mix because capitalists will use automation to replace workers as part of the class war.

Quote:Marx did not believe in the elimination of most physical labor through technological advancements alone in a capitalist society, because he believed capitalism contained within it certain tendencies which countered increasing automation and prevented it from developing beyond a limited point, so that manual industrial labor could not be eliminated until the overthrow of capitalism. Some commentators on Marx have argued that at the time he wrote the Grundrisse, he thought that the collapse of capitalism due to advancing automation was inevitable despite these counter-tendencies, but that by the time of his major work Capital: Critique of Political Economy he had abandoned this view, and came to believe that capitalism could continually renew itself unless overthrown.


They will also disregard any love for anything they produce, since it's for profit and profit only so it will be hilariously implemented into stupid things that don't make sense. Giving money to these industries is not of interest to me, eventually like everything else it'll be unavoidable as they will integrate it into everything.

AI has been a rude awakening to capitalist reformists and anti-revolution socialists who think they can gently ease their way into better living conditions - it is made apparent that capitalists will thwart this at every turn and prioritize their own interests.

People can't be arsed, that's the truth. Our own tools are left to rust. Unions are dying, true anti-capitalist orgs are aging. No one stands with the anti-capitalists beyond lip service and are still musing about communism being bad or too extreme while the capitalists are working on their automated dystopia and are quickly advancing with censorship and monitoring technology so even if people wake up eventually it'll be too late, so here we are.
Edited Sep 4 2025, 2:05 AM by noray.
noray
Sep 4 2025, 2:03 AM #3

The reason I'm not "anti-AI" as a concept is because I actually believe automation and industrialization is essential post-capitalism to improve our working conditions and achieving a post scarcity economy https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Post-scarcity - and AI would fit into that well. But I am fully aware that under capitalism, automation and capitalism does not mix because capitalists will use automation to replace workers as part of the class war.

Quote:Marx did not believe in the elimination of most physical labor through technological advancements alone in a capitalist society, because he believed capitalism contained within it certain tendencies which countered increasing automation and prevented it from developing beyond a limited point, so that manual industrial labor could not be eliminated until the overthrow of capitalism. Some commentators on Marx have argued that at the time he wrote the Grundrisse, he thought that the collapse of capitalism due to advancing automation was inevitable despite these counter-tendencies, but that by the time of his major work Capital: Critique of Political Economy he had abandoned this view, and came to believe that capitalism could continually renew itself unless overthrown.


They will also disregard any love for anything they produce, since it's for profit and profit only so it will be hilariously implemented into stupid things that don't make sense. Giving money to these industries is not of interest to me, eventually like everything else it'll be unavoidable as they will integrate it into everything.

AI has been a rude awakening to capitalist reformists and anti-revolution socialists who think they can gently ease their way into better living conditions - it is made apparent that capitalists will thwart this at every turn and prioritize their own interests.

People can't be arsed, that's the truth. Our own tools are left to rust. Unions are dying, true anti-capitalist orgs are aging. No one stands with the anti-capitalists beyond lip service and are still musing about communism being bad or too extreme while the capitalists are working on their automated dystopia and are quickly advancing with censorship and monitoring technology so even if people wake up eventually it'll be too late, so here we are.

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