vexxed.org, a successor to Ovarit

taterofdefiance

Oct 3 2025, 7:28 PM

#61

I could definitely do a sort of handy guide to the worst of the propaganda that is spreading and how it suppressing voting and causes people to feel helpless and powerless.

The one that irritates me the most because I saw how much people bought into it and how it definitely suppressed voting is the idea that democrats could have easily codified Roe vs Wade and didn't because they want to use it to manipulate women into voting for democratic candidates. I was shocked by how much people bought into that and still buy into that and I definitely saw people use it as an excuse to not vote for Harris.

The one that I saw at ovarit and seems to be the guiding principle at vexxed is that classic white supremacist trope that white women are under attack by those evil foreign men and dangerous sexual deviant strangers. Crime statistics just straight up don't support that. All women are always in the most danger from the men they know and especially family and men they are intimate.

On Reddit people love to tout the statistic that lesbians report the most domestic violence to claim that women are just as violent as men, but when you actually look at the study, the domestic violence came from men when they were with men.

Are there any other ones that people see that they would want me to break down? Those are just the three that I thought of off the top of my head.

YesYourNigel

259

Oct 4 2025, 11:17 AM

#62

(Oct 3 2025, 11:49 AM)Clover In hindsight, maybe the delay in having a feminist-oriented circle was what accelerated the right-wing slant of Vexxed.

Near Ovarit's end, I was already hearing many women (especially non-straight non-white ones) talk about what a dumpster fire the site has turned into, and how many feminist women were getting banned left and right. I imagine in an atmosphere like that, the conservative women rushed to the new site to complain some more about TIMs giving their poor pwecious Nigels too many unwanted boners, and the actually normal women were just...done. Or at the very least not motivated enough to make new accounts. It seems just that no-one was that excited about another GeNdErCrITiCaL cesspool than the conservatives who were having a grand time.

Aside from being unable to get those women back, I also don't think you can really cure a space from the conservative menace once you let them overtake it, normalise their rhetoric, censor rhetoric that is offensive to them and also let it get so bad that it's basically recognised by everyone for what it is. It's not that the whole place accidentally turned into a conservative cesspool while no-one was looking, it's that years of worsening double standards and policing of feminism turned feminists away, and the conservative women were let loose to infect it further.

Let's say Vexxed ends up with a feminist circle - what is the benefit? Sharing space with the usual conservaturds who'll rush in with their usual dumbass straight white woman takes and start screaming for the mods when the meanie hostile feminazi tells them in no unclear terms to fuck off? So...basically every other internet space in existence? There is no benefit to feminists for sharing their space with conservatives. It's not even an interesting thought experiment, because feminists spend every waking moment engulfed in regressive patriarchal bullshit, and there is nothing to be gained from talking heads parroting the same surface-level claims that feminism has tackled decades ago. There is only benefit to conservatives, because they have the confidence of the whole patriarchal society combined with exploiting the agreeable female socialisation, and they will lower the quality of any sort of discussion into the ground with their authoritative stupidity.

And unless you somehow attract libfems (unlikely both due to the conservative domaninace and also the fact that the forum does nothing to accommodate any of the plethora of circles that might be derived from liberal feminism) you're never going to have a variety of opinions there, you'll just have old straight women stinking up the place by acting as their Nigels' representatives, alongside radfems who have to walk on eggshells and be willing to play nice with conservatives...which means they're not actually radfems. The result is just a space that superficially pretends it's feminist in order to funnel skeptical or moderate women into conservativism, which makes it worse than no space at all.

Edited Oct 4 2025, 11:19 AM by YesYourNigel.

I refuse to debate two obvious facts: 1. the patriarchy exists 2. and that's a bad thing

Artemis_Lives
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Oct 4 2025, 1:56 PM

#63

The amount of positive comments and tone policing about Charlie Kirk really took me by surprise. Guess I should've known by all the pro-Israel sentiment and down voting of lefty opinions that something was up. Many over there seem more interested in bashing trans people or muslims than feminism.

Edited Oct 4 2025, 2:44 PM by Artemis_Lives.

Chernobog

Oct 4 2025, 6:33 PM

#64

Yeah, in the vein of what YesYourNigel said, you fail to appropriately shut down certain kinds of content a few too many times and you're going to be stuck with it forever. I have a nostalgic appreciation for the minimalist approach to moderating that any kid who got taken in by 4chan does, but Ovarit/Vexxed wasn't even doing that! They were decidedly allowing certain perspectives and banning the counterarguments (or, probably more often, selectively enforcing the rules so those of us making counterarguments would get discouraged). The biases were painfully obvious and not in alignment with the written rules, but something you had to feel out and often learn the hard way. At least in many of the lefty spaces where they'll clap you for, like, using the word "dumb", they'll be upfront about that kind of thing.

dobby

Yesterday, 6:49 AM

#65

(Sep 29 2025, 11:59 AM)hatpin I stopped using ovarit because of the "let all women speak" line letting in the racist, and classicist bullshit, not to mention the lesbophobia. The election season posts were unhinged, and countering them was exhausting, and a fool's errand.
There are a few Very Online Women who really run the conversations there, and most of them are right wing. I have real world experience with contemporary right wing women, and they won't leave their politics at home to work for all women.

How the hell are we ever going to be liberated when there are so many women actively working against women's liberation, some calling themselves "gender critical".

They were allowed to repeat propaganda all day long, and we got in trouble for being "rude" because I was frustrated with trying to discuss a couple of lies the poster would, then, refuse to reply or engage about.

I guess I won't use my invitation code to make an account. They aren't showing me that I am welcome, and that's too bad.

I agree with you. I've been experiencing the same on Vexxed tbh. I had tried to be Very Online too by posting a bunch more articles I'd saved throughout the day during breaks for a while... but honestly, a lot of the articles or discussions that I thought could've been most beneficial to hear from feminists on where the ones that were ignored the most lol. I had better luck whenever I posted more anti-TIM stuff or other articles that gave people an excuse to share their hate. 😬 Until I started being more vocal about being anti-Trump/anti-conservative out of spite and calling out some of the stuff I disagreed with, so I think most of my posts and comments have become even more unpopular there amongst the conservative regulars after I started doing that tbh.

I want the site to feel more welcoming to feminists and all women but idk how to help do that without site members having the ability to make circles of our own, the way that reddit and cekni both technically allow.

dobby

Yesterday, 6:51 AM

#66

(Oct 2 2025, 12:59 PM)ILoveKaleJustSoDangMuch modding Vexxed has felt like babysitting a bunch of bratty kids. Or rather, a group of mostly nice kids with a handful of little shits who ruin it for everybody else.

I'm so sorry for everybody who's tried to engage in good faith and build an actual radical feminist culture there. I don't have much more to say on this right now, just that I'm really disheartened by the behaviors I'm seeing over there.

I really appreciate your efforts in modding there on Vexxed! ❤ and all the other mods and admins there too!

I wish some of the userbase would make it easier on you all to mod. I feel bad for any of my posts and comments that may have also added to the workload for the mods; I haven't always been as civil as I wanted to be towards others within some of my comments, I think.

dobby

Yesterday, 7:15 AM

#67

(Oct 3 2025, 11:49 AM)Clover
(Sep 28 2025, 7:44 PM)YesYourNigel I imagine Vexxed is pulling the same shit as Ovarit was, in that it's pretending to be "feminist", but also claims it's "for all women". "All women" coincidentally only referring to conservative women and a rare quasi-feminist woman who makes sure to tiptoe around feminism enough so as not to get conservative women pissy. Libfem women apparently don't have a place in this space for "all women", even though they make up a huge number of women irl.

Yes, I've always found it somewhat ironic, and I probably brought it up in previous rants on this website, about how it's not really for "all women" when a majority of conservative women crowd out other women. As evidenced by the women in this thread alone, some do not participate on Vexxed because of the current atmosphere; this includes those who deleted their accounts, those who don't log in anymore, and those who just don't want to sign up based on what they see. That clearly means that the idea of being for "all women" is not actually happening.

The good news about Vexxed is that it sounds like they are more open to trying to make a change than Ovarit was. It sounds like they weren't expecting the site to get to this state, from what I've heard.

On the topic of trying to be a website for "all women," something that I've suggested to both a Vexxed mod and a woman who said she happened to be going to meet a Vexxed mod, and something that I had suggested in Ovarit in the past, is trust women to make their own circles/communities! It doesn't have to be a completely chaotic free for all where users can make as many circles as they want, it could be something like a level-capped perk. Like say at level 20 or something, a user can make their own circle, be the mod of it, have their own rules, invite whoever they want as mods. With such a system where users can actually make their own communities, I think that this gives Vexxed stuff the best of both worlds, in the sense that they can be more hands off and laissez-faire while communities can self-regulate and self-propagate as they desire. This would allow leftist/feminist spaces to form organically, women there would feel comfortable talking with each other in those communities if they know the mods of said communities are maybe more strict about removing stupid conservative comments or something, but if people making stupid conservative comments want to post their stupid conservative comments, they can go to a more "laissez-faire" circle and leave that community alone. Sounds like it'd be a win-win to me.

Like, honestly even if conservative women end up making their own circle, it would be a good thing overall: it could actually help contain the conservative spread all over the site, and then it means Vexxed can signal "hey this isn't a conservative site, I mean the conservative women had to go make their own circle." Like how Reddit has an r/conservative the Reddit trumpers roost at lol.

This would allow an actual sort of women's "free market of ideas." If somebody really cares about Marxist feminism, let them make a circle about it. If someone wants a space for black women, let them make a circle about it. If somebody really cares about Dianic witchcraft, let them make a circle about it. If someone doesn't like how the gender critical subreddit is running, if they think it's too conservative or too focused on making fun of TIPs or whatever, let them go make a different circle about gender critical with their own way of running it. Let people see the different ways communities can view and regulate conversation on the same topic. Let people see the wide variety of political stances that women can have.

I think fracturing of political opinions is a perfectly natural and organic thing. It frequently happens on the left and in leftist communities, sometimes to the detriment of solidarity, but sometimes I think it's necessary in order to let smaller voices have a place to breathe and organize their thoughts if they don't feel heard. I actually think the slowness of community creation on Ovarit and Vexxed and the resultant cramming of "all women" into one small space, not only does not work, it is to the benefit of right-wing rhetoric. It's a common trope that conservatives are able to put aside any disagreements and work together for their political cause (of being fucking evil assholes??), while liberals and leftists are more likely to disagree on some specific principles and fracture. Obviously, that left-right divide is going to immediately happen, and if there is no room for the left to split off and discuss amongst themselves, then they're just going to dwindle in numbers and possibly disappear while they find places where they can. The right don't care if there's leftist people squabbling in a shared space, as long as they have a place where they can share their sexist, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, or just completely insane and illogical rhetoric with each other without actual repercussions, they're perfectly content squatting there.

I actually think that the lack of the women's liberation circle right from the start of Vexxed, with GenderCritical being there from the beginning (iirc), is what caused the rapid decay of leftist/feminist viewpoints on there to the rise of conservative/right-wing viewpoints. The left/right divide happened, as it inevitably does anywhere, and the left did not really have a place they could even try to collectivize at.

I remember when I was active on Ovarit, I would frequently notice that users who I thought were thoughtful and made consistently good posts had the women's liberation circle as one of their active circles on their profiles. Meanwhile, users who I found to be... kind of fucking dumb and irritating frequently had GenderCritical and any other subreddits that were focused on transgenderism as their active profiles. There was a pretty stark divide between those who participated actively in the women's liberation circle versus those who did not. In hindsight, maybe the delay in having a feminist-oriented circle was what accelerated the right-wing slant of Vexxed.

I hope they can get the feminist circle up soon, I think that'll be a good start to try and pull Vexxed out of its right-wing entrenchment.

Omg I agree with all of this completely, and I had been wanting to figure out a good way to reach out to the Vexxed ideas to pitch it as well tbh. Like just allowing more users at a certain level or perhaps if some of us were trusted enough to help with recruiting new members who are mods/admins/group leaders of their own various different niche circles, whether it's a feminist book club or a group for preppers or various different lesbian groups on other sites, or for different radfem group leaders to each be able to make their own circles and curate the content their way if they wanted to, or for feminist influencers, content creators, and youtubers had the ability to create their own circles for their followers to chat in and discuss about the feminist topics that these influencers post videos about, etc — all of this would definitely benefit Vexxed as a website!

And I completely agree with you; I've been wanting to pitch the idea of allowing conservative women and liberal/leftist women and women of other political parties (across the world) to be allowed to make their own circles and put in the work to get it active and keep it smoothly moderated to their own liking tbh, and for members to have the ability to branch off and make their own circles if they don't like the way a circle is modded. (And maybe each new circle could be given certain minimum requirements for activity each week or months and number of active mods that they would have to meet in order for their circle to be allowed to remain on the site, or else other members can apply to request to mod the circle, the way that reddit allows it maybe. I feel like the ability to create and mod new circles for members at a certain level benefits everyone in keeping the site feeling like it's for "all" women. There's so many different female-run subreddits on different topics that keep getting banned, so if those well-modded groups had the opportunity to re-start their group on Vexxed, that would definitely also help in the site organically growing to include more diverse viewpoints from feminist/GC women.

If you haven't pitched this idea to the Vexxed admins yet, you totally should! ❤ I would've reached out to them myself to ask, but I was wary about accidentally writing out a wall of text that could overwhelm them since I wrote out too much when I had attempted to describe this same idea lol. It would be amazing if the Vexxed admins are open to trying out this idea! If they need more site members to volunteer to help make it work, I'd honestly love to volunteer to help, and I feel like so many others would too.

Wrongtoy

119

Yesterday, 3:06 PM

#68

When u have threads like this what do you expect.

https://vexxed.org/o/Women/5479/i-stand-with-jews-today-and-always

No, I’m not pledging allegiance to Israel over their genocide of mostly women and kids. I’m not “standing with Oct 7” because 1,105 Israelis died when you dropped six hiroshimas for that.

Fact is most of these ovarit kahanists put Israel first. Even their gc-ism is all Israel first. It’s very obvious already that Vexxed will pressure out or ban Israel critics by calling them nazis. So much like genderists.

I’m mostly there to comment on the ridiculous transvestite of the day as that is what we all agree on.

Edited Yesterday, 4:56 PM by Wrongtoy.

Wrongtoy

119

Yesterday, 5:26 PM

#69

Oh, and now my comment has been instantly sidelined by a kahanist mod. Oh well.

Like I said, I’m not really over there for “feminism.” I am not into book club or cat videos either. Where I most agree with these women is in saying that men can’t be women which is the one source of agreement.

Wrongtoy

119

Yesterday, 8:00 PM

#70

Even jkr is conflating Zionism with feminism. https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1974827235270922588

Whatever. If there is a universal feminism anymore, it doesn’t consist of what’s going on in Gaza and we can’t discuss it there anyway.