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"RadFems" For Prostitution

"RadFems" For Prostitution

 
Impress Polly
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Oct 24 2025, 10:45 PM
#1
So I was perusing the 4B Movement subreddit recently when I ran across this post where a user who goes by SimpleBandicoot5411 complained of getting banned from a radical feminism sub for opposing the sex industry. I was curious what place that could possibly be since there's no way it was Fourth Wave Women, so I searched for r/RadicalFeminism and instantly found my answer. Behold r/RadicalFeminism! Notice their rules over on the right. Notice specifically that the very first one, prioritized over all the others, is "No TERFs, No SWERFS". You can't make this shit up! And here I thought "radical feminists" had grown kind of pathetic already, reduced to de facto reformism and even beginning to abandon some of that lately (like gender critical activism, which is how conservatives take over that work, in case you can't figure that out)! This year does not cease to underwhelm me. Embracing the buying and selling of women's bodies as a "liberatory" practice (that's the actual wording of the rule descriptor) is the last step on the road to fully removing all remaining distinctions between liberal and radical women's politics. 

It doesn't depress me that this exists as a thing now, it angers me. My experience in prostitution was the whole goddessdamn reason why I became a women's liberationist in the first place! There came a point where someone recommended that I read Pornography: Men Possessing Women. It literally changed the whole entire trajectory of my life, Andrea Dworkin's way of writing about the sexual exploitation of women by men. And no, I will not use the industry-fabricated term "sex worker" to describe prostituted women because this is not a labor issue meriting perhaps workforce unionization like the liberals and Marxists insist, it's a women's issue meriting abolition of a system that treats our bodies themselves as commodities and our souls -- the souls of all women -- as disposable. Yeah, prostitution is just like a normal job. Except that your boss has to first convince you that he's your boyfriend and loves you very much and just wants to provide for you and take care of you like your own dad didn't. And takes away your car keys and locks you in. And pays you in highly addictive drugs so you'll be able to tolerate "your job" happening to you and also feel unable to leave. And you can't wear a name tag because it's too dangerous for your customers to know your name. But yes, by all means let's ignore the life expectancy of women in the sex industry and pretend that that's good for you and make it as accessible and common as possible! Clearly to disagree with that proposition is to have a phobia; a mental illness of some kind. You'd have to be crazy to oppose the sex industry. Clearly my persuasion is motivated by hatred for prostitutes and strippers and porn performers. Clearly.  :psycholaugh:  It amazes me how all the socialist principles of the Marxists and progressives always end where the bodies of women begin. Sex is one thing they seem unable to bring themselves to want to de-commodify.

If you want to know what it feels like to rent out your body, imagine being raped over and over and over and over and over and over again, day after day after day, every day for weeks, then you think you're about to leave, then weeks turn into months, you think you'll leave in a couple more months, then months turn into years. You start to forget what your name is because nobody calls you that anymore, including you. That's what it feels like. You can convince yourself that you're making choices, that you're in control of your own destiny and can leave any time you want, and technically that stuff may be true, but it doesn't change the way it feels to experience. Your body still registers it as if it were rape because this is sex you don't want to have and it still traumatizes you over and over and over again. You get really good at the fine art of dissociation. One day maybe you try to take the proverbial mask off only to find that there's nothing underneath it anymore; that you, what was the real you, is gone. And then you just sort of wonder aimlessly through your life, wondering who the hell you even are now and whether there's any going back.  :megacatweary: ...I'm going off on a tangent because talking about this is working me up right now, sorry. I have strong feelings about this shit. In fact there's really nothing in life that I feel more strongly about. So If this is where "radical feminism" is going then count me actively, not passively, against it. I will not fucking rest until THIS crap is no more!

Let's take over this sub. I'm not kidding. Let's just take over r/RadicalFeminism. I think it actually can be done! The woke-ass pick-me shit I've described here really looks like it's just stuff the mods believe in, NOT the sub's general population, and it looks just small enough as yet that its direction could potentially be influenced by the organized intervention of a few or several dozen new posters across many threads. Seriously, check out the consistent pattern:

-Here on a very mod-friendly thread titled "Whorephobia is a pillar of rape culture", you'll notice that the mods have had to lock the thread and delete most of the responses because they were dissenting ones that voiced opposition to the sex industry, that the OP has only 16 up-votes compared to 66 comments, and that the most up-voted surviving comments are also dissenting ones. 

-Another very mod-friendly thread opposing burqa restrictions entitled When did the community get hijacked by bigots? has 27 up-votes so far...and a larger 40 comments, with the most popular comment thereon, at 38 up-votes, being one opposing religion. Conversely, a much more popular thread, at 150 up-votes so far, makes fun of a Birmingham imam explaining the proper way to stone a woman to death.

-Here's one denouncing the 4B movement for its man-hating and supposed bigotry. Not a single up-vote, but three comments. Pro-4B comments have a couple up-votes apiece. (Not many there seem to know what 4B is, but once they learn, their instinct is to back it.)

-Now let's get into some of the more popular posts I can readily find on the sub. At 294 up-votes is a misandrist type thread about dating double-standards satisfyingly titled Unironically getting depressed over how ugly men are. It's legitimately a great read! Locked by the moderators for being too popular.

-Other popular threads skirt the sub's rules against TERFing and ice queening in barely concealed ways. Here, for example, is an anti-porn meme with 174 up-votes entitled Men don't want to end violence against women. They masturbate to it. Another, with 218 up-votes, deftly quotes Andrea Dworkin, just not on the subject of the sex industry. And here's one of my personal favorite posts entitled I detransitioned (from being a trans man) because I started to feel like men were fundamentally evil and I didn't want to be associated with it. 302 up-votes on that one so far. Most popular post I can readily find on the sub!

-While many posts on the sub implicitly question socialization theory, my absolute favorite post that I've found there so far is this video that explicitly offers an evolutionary perspective on how patriarchy was invented to undermine natural selection so that inferior men could reproduce their genes. It's the most thoroughly based and un-woke post I located. :meowqueen:  254 up-votes as of now. Another favorite of mine highlights that in most sexually dimorphic mammal species similar to ours, the females select their mates, not the other way around like the way humans do.

-Another poster asks how she can stop being heterosexual because she hates men. (Most popular response, at 64 up-votes, is a link to the 4B Movement sub, nothing that "You don't have to be non-hetero to separate yourself from men.")

You get the picture: There very much appears to be a real gap between what the sub's moderators stand for and what its general user base stands for. The user base seems to skew young, refreshingly based, and deeply male-skeptical. I suggest that we invade the sub in an organized way and feed this conflict with a bunch of threads and posts blatantly violating the rules mandating sexual liberalism, queer theory, and so forth and weaponize the positive responses to promote the idea of replacing the mods. I believe that with this little conspiracy we can potentially drive the mods out or, barring that, destroy the place and draw the general populace over to like Fourth Wave Women, the 4B Movement sub, and, well, Cloven Hooves.  :meowknife: Let's do it! Let's plan this out here!
Edited Oct 25 2025, 9:05 PM by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
Oct 24 2025, 10:45 PM #1

So I was perusing the 4B Movement subreddit recently when I ran across this post where a user who goes by SimpleBandicoot5411 complained of getting banned from a radical feminism sub for opposing the sex industry. I was curious what place that could possibly be since there's no way it was Fourth Wave Women, so I searched for r/RadicalFeminism and instantly found my answer. Behold r/RadicalFeminism! Notice their rules over on the right. Notice specifically that the very first one, prioritized over all the others, is "No TERFs, No SWERFS". You can't make this shit up! And here I thought "radical feminists" had grown kind of pathetic already, reduced to de facto reformism and even beginning to abandon some of that lately (like gender critical activism, which is how conservatives take over that work, in case you can't figure that out)! This year does not cease to underwhelm me. Embracing the buying and selling of women's bodies as a "liberatory" practice (that's the actual wording of the rule descriptor) is the last step on the road to fully removing all remaining distinctions between liberal and radical women's politics. 

It doesn't depress me that this exists as a thing now, it angers me. My experience in prostitution was the whole goddessdamn reason why I became a women's liberationist in the first place! There came a point where someone recommended that I read Pornography: Men Possessing Women. It literally changed the whole entire trajectory of my life, Andrea Dworkin's way of writing about the sexual exploitation of women by men. And no, I will not use the industry-fabricated term "sex worker" to describe prostituted women because this is not a labor issue meriting perhaps workforce unionization like the liberals and Marxists insist, it's a women's issue meriting abolition of a system that treats our bodies themselves as commodities and our souls -- the souls of all women -- as disposable. Yeah, prostitution is just like a normal job. Except that your boss has to first convince you that he's your boyfriend and loves you very much and just wants to provide for you and take care of you like your own dad didn't. And takes away your car keys and locks you in. And pays you in highly addictive drugs so you'll be able to tolerate "your job" happening to you and also feel unable to leave. And you can't wear a name tag because it's too dangerous for your customers to know your name. But yes, by all means let's ignore the life expectancy of women in the sex industry and pretend that that's good for you and make it as accessible and common as possible! Clearly to disagree with that proposition is to have a phobia; a mental illness of some kind. You'd have to be crazy to oppose the sex industry. Clearly my persuasion is motivated by hatred for prostitutes and strippers and porn performers. Clearly.  :psycholaugh:  It amazes me how all the socialist principles of the Marxists and progressives always end where the bodies of women begin. Sex is one thing they seem unable to bring themselves to want to de-commodify.

If you want to know what it feels like to rent out your body, imagine being raped over and over and over and over and over and over again, day after day after day, every day for weeks, then you think you're about to leave, then weeks turn into months, you think you'll leave in a couple more months, then months turn into years. You start to forget what your name is because nobody calls you that anymore, including you. That's what it feels like. You can convince yourself that you're making choices, that you're in control of your own destiny and can leave any time you want, and technically that stuff may be true, but it doesn't change the way it feels to experience. Your body still registers it as if it were rape because this is sex you don't want to have and it still traumatizes you over and over and over again. You get really good at the fine art of dissociation. One day maybe you try to take the proverbial mask off only to find that there's nothing underneath it anymore; that you, what was the real you, is gone. And then you just sort of wonder aimlessly through your life, wondering who the hell you even are now and whether there's any going back.  :megacatweary: ...I'm going off on a tangent because talking about this is working me up right now, sorry. I have strong feelings about this shit. In fact there's really nothing in life that I feel more strongly about. So If this is where "radical feminism" is going then count me actively, not passively, against it. I will not fucking rest until THIS crap is no more!

Let's take over this sub. I'm not kidding. Let's just take over r/RadicalFeminism. I think it actually can be done! The woke-ass pick-me shit I've described here really looks like it's just stuff the mods believe in, NOT the sub's general population, and it looks just small enough as yet that its direction could potentially be influenced by the organized intervention of a few or several dozen new posters across many threads. Seriously, check out the consistent pattern:

-Here on a very mod-friendly thread titled "Whorephobia is a pillar of rape culture", you'll notice that the mods have had to lock the thread and delete most of the responses because they were dissenting ones that voiced opposition to the sex industry, that the OP has only 16 up-votes compared to 66 comments, and that the most up-voted surviving comments are also dissenting ones. 

-Another very mod-friendly thread opposing burqa restrictions entitled When did the community get hijacked by bigots? has 27 up-votes so far...and a larger 40 comments, with the most popular comment thereon, at 38 up-votes, being one opposing religion. Conversely, a much more popular thread, at 150 up-votes so far, makes fun of a Birmingham imam explaining the proper way to stone a woman to death.

-Here's one denouncing the 4B movement for its man-hating and supposed bigotry. Not a single up-vote, but three comments. Pro-4B comments have a couple up-votes apiece. (Not many there seem to know what 4B is, but once they learn, their instinct is to back it.)

-Now let's get into some of the more popular posts I can readily find on the sub. At 294 up-votes is a misandrist type thread about dating double-standards satisfyingly titled Unironically getting depressed over how ugly men are. It's legitimately a great read! Locked by the moderators for being too popular.

-Other popular threads skirt the sub's rules against TERFing and ice queening in barely concealed ways. Here, for example, is an anti-porn meme with 174 up-votes entitled Men don't want to end violence against women. They masturbate to it. Another, with 218 up-votes, deftly quotes Andrea Dworkin, just not on the subject of the sex industry. And here's one of my personal favorite posts entitled I detransitioned (from being a trans man) because I started to feel like men were fundamentally evil and I didn't want to be associated with it. 302 up-votes on that one so far. Most popular post I can readily find on the sub!

-While many posts on the sub implicitly question socialization theory, my absolute favorite post that I've found there so far is this video that explicitly offers an evolutionary perspective on how patriarchy was invented to undermine natural selection so that inferior men could reproduce their genes. It's the most thoroughly based and un-woke post I located. :meowqueen:  254 up-votes as of now. Another favorite of mine highlights that in most sexually dimorphic mammal species similar to ours, the females select their mates, not the other way around like the way humans do.

-Another poster asks how she can stop being heterosexual because she hates men. (Most popular response, at 64 up-votes, is a link to the 4B Movement sub, nothing that "You don't have to be non-hetero to separate yourself from men.")

You get the picture: There very much appears to be a real gap between what the sub's moderators stand for and what its general user base stands for. The user base seems to skew young, refreshingly based, and deeply male-skeptical. I suggest that we invade the sub in an organized way and feed this conflict with a bunch of threads and posts blatantly violating the rules mandating sexual liberalism, queer theory, and so forth and weaponize the positive responses to promote the idea of replacing the mods. I believe that with this little conspiracy we can potentially drive the mods out or, barring that, destroy the place and draw the general populace over to like Fourth Wave Women, the 4B Movement sub, and, well, Cloven Hooves.  :meowknife: Let's do it! Let's plan this out here!

13
Oct 25 2025, 5:29 AM
#2
/r/radicalfeminism is a pit of villainy. I made a twitter post about this, but one of the owners is a trans chaser, kinkster, and a pimp recruiting for her webcam business. There's an obvious conflict of interest.

NSFW warning:
https://x.com/noirefem1/status/1970194871622238529
noray
Oct 25 2025, 5:29 AM #2

/r/radicalfeminism is a pit of villainy. I made a twitter post about this, but one of the owners is a trans chaser, kinkster, and a pimp recruiting for her webcam business. There's an obvious conflict of interest.

NSFW warning:
https://x.com/noirefem1/status/1970194871622238529

Oct 25 2025, 5:59 PM
#3
I wonder whether those mods are actually women.
Elsacat
Oct 25 2025, 5:59 PM #3

I wonder whether those mods are actually women.

Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
83
7 hours ago
#4
(Oct 25 2025, 5:29 AM)noray /r/radicalfeminism is a pit of villainy. I made a twitter post about this, but one of the owners is a trans chaser, kinkster, and a pimp recruiting for her webcam business. There's an obvious conflict of interest.

NSFW warning:
https://x.com/noirefem1/status/1970194871622238529

That somehow doesn't surprise me at all.

(Oct 25 2025, 5:59 PM)Elsacat I wonder whether those mods are actually women.

Honestly, that was a thought I had too. Like if this is a Femen kinda situation where the "radfem" group is actually created and run by a dude and really looks like it. But it looks like Noray has some clear answers.
Edited 7 hours ago by Impress Polly.
Impress Polly
The kind they warned you about.
7 hours ago #4

(Oct 25 2025, 5:29 AM)noray /r/radicalfeminism is a pit of villainy. I made a twitter post about this, but one of the owners is a trans chaser, kinkster, and a pimp recruiting for her webcam business. There's an obvious conflict of interest.

NSFW warning:
https://x.com/noirefem1/status/1970194871622238529

That somehow doesn't surprise me at all.

(Oct 25 2025, 5:59 PM)Elsacat I wonder whether those mods are actually women.

Honestly, that was a thought I had too. Like if this is a Femen kinda situation where the "radfem" group is actually created and run by a dude and really looks like it. But it looks like Noray has some clear answers.

4 hours ago
#5
How would posting a lot of threads there get rid of the mods? I'd love to contribute but I feel like I'd just get banned and nothing would really happen. I imagine whatever sicko made this sub knew the rules are incompatible with actual radical feminism, and they probably love the thought of shutting women up and replacing their feminism with the liberal-approved exploitative version.
YesYourNigel
4 hours ago #5

How would posting a lot of threads there get rid of the mods? I'd love to contribute but I feel like I'd just get banned and nothing would really happen. I imagine whatever sicko made this sub knew the rules are incompatible with actual radical feminism, and they probably love the thought of shutting women up and replacing their feminism with the liberal-approved exploitative version.

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