What People Get Wrong About Christian Women Who Voted for Trump
What People Get Wrong About Christian Women Who Voted for Trump
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(Jan 10 2025, 10:43 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:on the surface the website looks like a "general" group of women criticizing "the left," which might make people think "oh, this is a place for conservative women" due to all-or-nothing thinking, which then I think causes a bit of a feedback loop (liberal women think it isn't the place for them, and conservative women think it is the place for them).
Another crucial ingredient (aside from mods' double standards) is having a common enemy. Both sides will dump on the same group and bond over it despite doing it for completely different reasons, but will think they're in the presence of like-minded people. And then your buddies start adding more and more of their conservative takes in and the mods start side-eyeing you for "hostility" if you don't go all "mhm mhm quite intriguing points, fellow madam".
Quote:I'm not too sure about conservative women supporting surrogacy, but I do know conservatives are anti-choice in part because it provides conservative women to have their "pick of the litter" when it comes to adopting a "fresh" [white] baby
Putting babies up for adoption is an "out" that conservatives give without actually intending the person to go through with it, kinda like "You can just be GNC instead of being trans" or the liberal attitudes towards prostitution that no-one actually respects or wants. They're also counting on the woman bonding with the baby so she'll never put it up for adoption - adoption is just a superficial carrot on a stick they can use to create the illusion of a safety net for women. As for who's going to take care of the baby, idk, someone will as long as it's not me. I don't think conservatives actually want to adopt, it's not "natural", esp for the man trying to spread his genes around.
Conservative women do not think "What if I'm infertile?" or "What if he beats me?" or "What about my eventual career prospects as a housewife?" or "What if he leaves and I'm a single mother?" or "What happens when I'm not young, skinny and attractive anymore?". It's just not going to happen because it doesn't happen in the fairy tale. If/once it does happen, they'll be convinced they deserved it for being bad women and take pride in just how much abuse they can take without complaining about it like those other spoiled women. Remember conservative women get abused as much as any other woman. They just think it's a mark of pride and resilliance to take it all lying down.
Because women learned to internalise all their problems, that means they're always the problem, not the men. Very specific subsets of men that their Nigels don't like could be a problem (i.e. brown men, TIMs) but that's just because it allows white men to better market their own protection racket. ofc the real cause of the problem is never men, but always sth else that makes your next-door misogynist look good in comparison - the race, the trans ideology, political leanings, lack of religion (or being religious, in liberal circles)...but certainly not men just being misogynists like they always were.
Quote:I don't know how I feel though about banning conservative women simply for being conservative
I'm curious why you think they shouldn't be banned. Ovarit was supposed to be feminist (which is still noticeable in specific subcommunities there even if GC is a shitshow) so I just don't know what conservative women could contribute, other than just parroting whatever "own" their Nigel wants to hurl at the feminazis.
Quote:I remember getting a decent amount of pushback on that, with people claiming "no it's not! I see plenty of opinions I don't agree with!"
Opinions like "women shouldn't be denied bodily autonomy"? lol
That's always my thought when I see this. Hmm is this said by a conservative anti-trans woman who thinks any feminism is "too far" or by a feminist who thinks herself very tolerant for entertaining conservative points as if they have any merit just because they happen to be on the same site?
Your whole comment is brilliant and so true omg. I have been meaning to reply to you to tell you that ever since I read this thread months ago lol. 😭
All of this part especially is so well said!:
Quote:Putting babies up for adoption is an "out" that conservatives give without actually intending the person to go through with it, kinda like "You can just be GNC instead of being trans" or the liberal attitudes towards prostitution that no-one actually respects or wants. They're also counting on the woman bonding with the baby so she'll never put it up for adoption - adoption is just a superficial carrot on a stick they can use to create the illusion of a safety net for women. As for who's going to take care of the baby, idk, someone will as long as it's not me. I don't think conservatives actually want to adopt, it's not "natural", esp for the man trying to spread his genes around.
Conservative women do not think "What if I'm infertile?" or "What if he beats me?" or "What about my eventual career prospects as a housewife?" or "What if he leaves and I'm a single mother?" or "What happens when I'm not young, skinny and attractive anymore?". It's just not going to happen because it doesn't happen in the fairy tale. If/once it does happen, they'll be convinced they deserved it for being bad women and take pride in just how much abuse they can take without complaining about it like those other spoiled women. Remember conservative women get abused as much as any other woman. They just think it's a mark of pride and resilliance to take it all lying down.
I wish there was a bookmark function on this site or that I knew how to use it. I want to save your post for later to keep on referencing everywhere lol
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(Jan 10 2025, 10:43 AM)YesYourNigelQuote:on the surface the website looks like a "general" group of women criticizing "the left," which might make people think "oh, this is a place for conservative women" due to all-or-nothing thinking, which then I think causes a bit of a feedback loop (liberal women think it isn't the place for them, and conservative women think it is the place for them).
Another crucial ingredient (aside from mods' double standards) is having a common enemy. Both sides will dump on the same group and bond over it despite doing it for completely different reasons, but will think they're in the presence of like-minded people. And then your buddies start adding more and more of their conservative takes in and the mods start side-eyeing you for "hostility" if you don't go all "mhm mhm quite intriguing points, fellow madam".
Quote:I'm not too sure about conservative women supporting surrogacy, but I do know conservatives are anti-choice in part because it provides conservative women to have their "pick of the litter" when it comes to adopting a "fresh" [white] baby
Putting babies up for adoption is an "out" that conservatives give without actually intending the person to go through with it, kinda like "You can just be GNC instead of being trans" or the liberal attitudes towards prostitution that no-one actually respects or wants. They're also counting on the woman bonding with the baby so she'll never put it up for adoption - adoption is just a superficial carrot on a stick they can use to create the illusion of a safety net for women. As for who's going to take care of the baby, idk, someone will as long as it's not me. I don't think conservatives actually want to adopt, it's not "natural", esp for the man trying to spread his genes around.
Conservative women do not think "What if I'm infertile?" or "What if he beats me?" or "What about my eventual career prospects as a housewife?" or "What if he leaves and I'm a single mother?" or "What happens when I'm not young, skinny and attractive anymore?". It's just not going to happen because it doesn't happen in the fairy tale. If/once it does happen, they'll be convinced they deserved it for being bad women and take pride in just how much abuse they can take without complaining about it like those other spoiled women. Remember conservative women get abused as much as any other woman. They just think it's a mark of pride and resilliance to take it all lying down.
Because women learned to internalise all their problems, that means they're always the problem, not the men. Very specific subsets of men that their Nigels don't like could be a problem (i.e. brown men, TIMs) but that's just because it allows white men to better market their own protection racket. ofc the real cause of the problem is never men, but always sth else that makes your next-door misogynist look good in comparison - the race, the trans ideology, political leanings, lack of religion (or being religious, in liberal circles)...but certainly not men just being misogynists like they always were.
Quote:I don't know how I feel though about banning conservative women simply for being conservative
I'm curious why you think they shouldn't be banned. Ovarit was supposed to be feminist (which is still noticeable in specific subcommunities there even if GC is a shitshow) so I just don't know what conservative women could contribute, other than just parroting whatever "own" their Nigel wants to hurl at the feminazis.
Quote:I remember getting a decent amount of pushback on that, with people claiming "no it's not! I see plenty of opinions I don't agree with!"
Opinions like "women shouldn't be denied bodily autonomy"? lol
That's always my thought when I see this. Hmm is this said by a conservative anti-trans woman who thinks any feminism is "too far" or by a feminist who thinks herself very tolerant for entertaining conservative points as if they have any merit just because they happen to be on the same site?
Your whole comment is brilliant and so true omg. I have been meaning to reply to you to tell you that ever since I read this thread months ago lol. 😭
All of this part especially is so well said!:
Quote:Putting babies up for adoption is an "out" that conservatives give without actually intending the person to go through with it, kinda like "You can just be GNC instead of being trans" or the liberal attitudes towards prostitution that no-one actually respects or wants. They're also counting on the woman bonding with the baby so she'll never put it up for adoption - adoption is just a superficial carrot on a stick they can use to create the illusion of a safety net for women. As for who's going to take care of the baby, idk, someone will as long as it's not me. I don't think conservatives actually want to adopt, it's not "natural", esp for the man trying to spread his genes around.
Conservative women do not think "What if I'm infertile?" or "What if he beats me?" or "What about my eventual career prospects as a housewife?" or "What if he leaves and I'm a single mother?" or "What happens when I'm not young, skinny and attractive anymore?". It's just not going to happen because it doesn't happen in the fairy tale. If/once it does happen, they'll be convinced they deserved it for being bad women and take pride in just how much abuse they can take without complaining about it like those other spoiled women. Remember conservative women get abused as much as any other woman. They just think it's a mark of pride and resilliance to take it all lying down.
I wish there was a bookmark function on this site or that I knew how to use it. I want to save your post for later to keep on referencing everywhere lol
